Carnal Ordinances & His Illness

Lecture by Dr. Henry Clifford Kinley given in October 1975.


Transcriber’s Notes


Transcribed by Beverly Allen

Proofread by Binghamton , NY class and Syracuse , NY class

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DR. KINLEY: I’m concerned about you and my present disabilities of which it’s —- —–. I wanna say first of all that during my illness, which is very very serious according to doctors, they didn’t expect me to survive this long. They expected me to be dead, they expected me not to be living. But I promised Yahweh that if He, that if He wanted to take me, I was ready. I didn’t have no getting ready to do, I live this way. But if it be His will to let me up, I would be right back to talk to you and to try to persuade you of the nearness of the revelation of Yahshua the Messiah from heaven. So I’m always glad to testify in His behalf. And I want you to know that the time is short. We wouldn’t be spending thousands of dollars to send somebody over cross the water just on no sight-seeing tour, or nothing like that. Dr. David Rosen is now in New York . What’s the city, what’s the name of the town?

STUDENT: Rochester

DR. KINLEY: Rochester , New York with his parents. And he is supposed to leave the 20th of this month going to England to try to give Dr. Kerry Woodland a little push there, and then he’s going on to Jerusalem , Televi, and then Jerusalem . And also Michael Rothstein, I’ve asked him to go, and he’s going by England , and also to Jerusalem to help Dr. David Rosen. They’re going to work together over there and try to set up a school in the Holy Land . Now we realize that they will be in competition with the Rabbis and whatnots over there. They don’t know, and they are looking for Yahshua the Messiah to come the first time. Now when I say the first time, they’re looking for Him to come according to the promise that was made by the prophets, and also shown in the Genesis, uh, not shown in the Genesis, but to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and to the prophets. And of course Yahshua the Messiah was here, and walked around in physical body, not a body of sin, but a body like unto sinful flesh. He fulfilled the law and the prophecy. And then after His fulfillment of the law and the prophecy, which you’ve heard many times about, then it was nailed to the cross. I don’t see the chart. We don’t have that chart here. But anyhow you know that He was crucified and nailed to the cross, and was made a propitiation for our sins according to the scriptures. And He raised again from the dead according to the scriptures, the 15th chapter of 1Corinthians explains it in detail. And what we’re looking for now is the revelation of Yahshua the Messiah from heaven.

I don’t intend to stay up here and to preach no great sermon this morning because I’m too weak, and I don’t feel like it. But I do wanna call your attention to the fact that it’s necessary for you come and learn something about it, and learn something about it now. I want you to understand and know, which we have called your attention to many, many times, that the Roman Catholics they expected Yahshua the Messiah to be revealed from heaven in 1975, and so also didn’t the Church of God expect that, for Him to be revealed in 1975, and Jehovah’s Witnesses. Now that’s many millions of the 3 to 4 billion people that dwell on the face of the earth at the present time. He hasn’t showed up yet. Any my statement to you was “He will not show up this 1975.” See I told you that to begin with. The reason why I said it that way is because the Apostle Paul said this “Whether there be prophecies they shall fail.” We have known and noticed the continuation of the rising and setting of the sun, and one of these days it’s gonna fail cause Yahshua is gonna take it out. “Whether there be tongues they shall cease.” Any nation you go to on the face of the earth, now regardless to what their language was, it was spoken of back in the Tower of Babel , the confusion of tongues, anywhere you go on the face of the earth now they have someone to speak to you in any language that is spoken on earth. So consequently, tongues, so far as the inability to use it as a barrier, well that’s ceased. So the gospel is being preached. And what we’re very much concerned about, I want you to read it out of the Bible. And I want you to understand what we’re talking about, and we’ll make some reference to make sure you —- —-, 24th chapter of Matthew and the 14th &15th verse, I want you to know where you are this morning.

READER: And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness. . .

DR. KINLEY: And this gospel, not that gospel they’re preaching out there, Billy Graham and the rest of ’em in Jesus Christ, and the Lord and God and so forth… It’s not that! But this gospel that’s taught in this school, the true genuine gospel of the kingdom that Yahshua the Messiah said would be preached, shall, not maybe… See we couldn’t get into China now, and so now there’s gonna be some, some people go into China about this gospel. To tell you the truth about it, they already know and understand that Yahweh is the true name. That’s 850 million people, Chinese, on the mainland, Chinese that know the name there. They already know that the true name of our heavenly Father is Yahweh according to Mr. Lee, a Chinaman that’s in Ontario , uh, that’s in, uh, what part?

STUDENT: Kingston Ontario Canada

DR. KINLEY: Kingston Ontario Canada . They already know. But all the trips and all that we have made we have failed to get in there. But nevertheless, I wanted to let you know that. Now they’re the greatest and the bigest nation there is on earth. There’s no bigger nation. There’s no other providences any bigger than the Chinese; they already know it. So Mr. Lee he wants to go, and he was waiting on some money from some of his ancestors, or somebody, I don’t remember; they did tell me, but I forgot it. But it’s my understanding that he’s now received it, and he can get into Canada . He has a wife and four children in Canada , uh, China , so he’s expected to go to school in China . And he had heard from Dr. Harris, and also from Dr. Clarence Keys. He called his wife and he told her that they had been to Japan , and they had successfully got to see the officials and the person whom they wished to see in Japan , and they had quite a reception. You know Japan is a Buddhist and, Shin, uh, Shinto and Buddhists. And last year, not last year, but 1971 when we were on our way to the Holy Land, we made the first tour there of the world, why the Chinese —- —- —- on the military duty station from the war, Tojo, I believe his name was, he followed us out of the United States into England back into his own country. And he was touring the world making a speech. And during his speech… I should tell you this: See they thought, the Japanese thought that Tojo was the son of God. And he was called the Rising Son. They thought that they were the nation that would overcome the world. And they had what they called suicide military, uh, uh,

STUDENT: kamikaze

DR. KINLEY: Yeah, and so then they bombed Pearl Harbor . I told them about it that they were gonna bomb Pearl Harbor, and they said “No, ain’t nothing like that gonna happen; a little nation like Japan will not jump on the United States .” And everywhere I went I told them that they would, and everywhere I went they told me that they wouldn’t, because they didn’t have the ability, and neither the strength to fight the United States of America . And you know yourselves whether they bombed Japan , or whether Japan bombed Pearl Harbor . You know that yourself; so they did.

So everything that we have ever told you, we told you according to a definite purpose and plan that Yahweh revealed to me in nineteen hundred and thirty-one (1931). And long before that time I asked of Yahweh to show me a sign to let the stars fall. Three, three of ’em, three different intervals, just right within the space of within an hour, and it happened. Now listen folks, Yahweh is real, no foolishness about it at all. What you have in your Bible is true. There is some mistranslations and interpolations in your Bible. I want you to know that. During my illness, Mrs. Irene Giragosian come here from New York . And she went and bought, while she was, uh, doing her stay here, she went and bought the book on etymology. Now the name of the book… Now what etymology is, is a derivative and the source from which words that is in your English dictionary is concerned. Etymology…and lexicography is the meaning of the words as they’re used in common phraseolgy of English. That’s what etym… Etymology is the derivative and source from which words comes. And Lexicography is according to the way you use words, and they’re coined in everyday language in the English dictionary.

Now I wanna mention this: Now in that book of etymology, showing the derivative of words that’s taken from Joshua , and they say that the name Jesus was not until the 15th century AD, they didn’t use it at all. That means that the Apostles knew nothing about no Jesus Christ, and no Lord, and no God, and nothing like that. They didn’t know nothing of it. And they have the for the root Joshua . And you know that Joshua was not in any language at all, none whatsoever. It wasn’t in any English language, and no other language until the 17th century. There is something wrong with etymology there, because we know that the J was not in the Hebrew language until the 17th century AD. So if they went back to the 15th century and showed that it derived as Joshua , there was no J in the 17th century. But we do know now that there’s no J in the Hebrew language, and it’s not Jesus, we know that. Now the reason why I brought that up is to show you that the rest of the world out here they’re preaching in another name. It cannot be the true gospel of the kingdom! They’re preaching in Lord, God, and Jesus Christ – it’s not so. So in my weakness I thought it my indispensable duty to get up and tell you that so you wouldn’t overlook nothing, so that you’d be punctual in attendance, and try to learn something for yourself, something definite, something positive, and something concrete so that you can be saved.

Now I’ll say this: The revelation of Yahshua the Messiah from heaven it’s not far in the too far distant future. We know it won’t be in 1975. So I thought, in my weakness, (which I’m almost trembling in my boots now), I thought it was necessary for me to get up here and speak these few words to you and let you know that I appreciate your interest in my prayers, I mean your prayers for me for my recovery, and to let you know that if I never rose off of that sick bed, if I never, if I never went anywhere, I’M NOT ASHAMED OF THE GOSPEL WHICH I HAVE TAUGHT YOU. I TAUGHT YOU ACCORDING TO THE PURPOSE OF YAHWEH. I’m prepared and ready to go at all times. If Yahshua calls me off the front this gospel will continue on.

One more thing or two I want to call your attention to, and I want you to look at Daniel 9:24.

READER: Seventy weeks of years are determined. . .

DR. KINLEY: Now seven.., Freddy get the board please. Seventy weeks, in Daniel, is determined. Now the reason why I’m pointing this out to you, I told David what to speak to them Jews about when he got over there. Now look folks, they’re expecting Him to come and to do what He has already done. I just wanted him to have the scriptures. They don’t have the New Testament as you have, as it’s called, as it is called, they don’t have that. And they claim to go on looking for Yahshua the Messiah to come, and I pointed this out to David. Anytime you confront them… See Daniel and the books of the Prophets, and Moses, that is authentic and accepted by the Jews. We wanted to let them know that 70 weeks was determined upon the holy city to finish the transgression and to bring in everlasting righteousness. They just had come up from Babylon, and it said 70 more weeks. Seventy weeks of years is 490 years. One day for a year, and one week is 7 years in prophetic time. So if 1 week is 7 years in prophetic time, 70 weeks would be 490 years. And you know good and well that 490 years have passed several times. We could put it on the board. Put it on the board Freddy and show ’em how many times it’s passed. Multiply 490 by whatever it takes to make up the 490 years, you multiply down to the present time where we are now. So I just wanted you… Now this is important! Now you do well to hear what I’m saying. I’m choosing my words! I told you I wasn’t able to stand up here and preach to you, so you know anything I have to say to you is important.

FREDDY: It would be 4 times since Messiah was here. . .

DR. KINLEY: Now it’s transpired 4 times – that is in their book. They don’t accept Matthew, Mark, Luke & John, and the New Testament, but they hold to the Old Testament. But you are reading out of the Old Testament, and so it’s passed 4 times. Now that takes care of that argument. Now what’s, uh, the scripture lesson that she read here this morning “Beloved believe not every spirit.” It didn’t say believe not every body, it said every spirit. For what, for what? Take 2520, Freddy, and straighten it out .

READER: but try the spirits whether they are of Yahweh. . .

DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)

READER: because many false prophets are gone out into the world…

DR. KINLEY: Now listen, now here’s the reason why you try the spirits. Read that first verse, repeat what you just said. . .

READER: Beloved. . .

DR. KINLEY: Now listen, he’s talking, he’s not talking to everybody! He’s just writing this epistle up to Jerusalem to them that had the Holy Spirit. If they didn’t have the Holy Spirit, they didn’t have nothing to try the spirit by. Well now everybody, I didn’t say every spirit Bishop, I said everybody that gets up they read the first epistle of John, talking to their audience and congregation. Regardless whether they’re Methodist, and Baptist, and Presbyterians or Roman Catholics, they say “Beloved,” talking to their audience. And that’s not what John is talking about. He’s talking to them that’s up at Jerusalem that has the Holy Spirit. He said “Beloved don’t beliveve every spirit!” He didn’t say EVERYBODY. Read.

READER: but try the spirits. . .

DR. KINLEY: But you try… See you don’t have nothing to try nothing by. If you don’t have the Holy Spirit you don’t have nothing to try nothing by. So it ain’t no need in you coming down here arguing about your church. All right, read on.

READER: but try the spirits. . .

DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)

READER: whether they are of Yahweh. . .

DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)

READER: because many false prophets are gone out into. . .

DR. KINLEY: Now here’s the reason why, cause many false prophets

READER: are gone out into the world. . .

DR. KINLEY: Are gone out into the world. Get in the 24th chapter of Matthew and find out about the prophets. Read on. Many false prophets

READER: hereby. . .

DR. KINLEY: MANY, just a whole lot of ’em, NOT A FEW! The world is full of false prophets. Many false prophets have gone out into the world. And John in his epistle there said “They’re already gone,” at the time he wrote the epistle, so the world is full of ’em. Where did they come from? Satanic spirits that was cast out of heaven and came on down through the Garden of Eden. Now then this is what was said, it’s been said to me many times. “Why don’t you just go ‘head on and just preach the gospel and let the Roman Catholics and the Protestants alone.” Now if I did just that I wouldn’t have nobody to preach to, cause that’s all that’s wrong in the world, false doctrine, false teaching. They were there when Yahshua the Messiah was there. Now He come to seek and to save that which was lost. Suppose He let the Pharisees, the Scribes, and the Zealots and so forth alone. He wouldn’t have a thing to say. We wanna tell you, and our job is to tell you what’s wrong! And we have the nerve to tell you that the Roman Catholics and the Protestants both are wrong, the Jews and so forth and so on. That’s my job! Now the Devil would have it just around the other way, “Go on and preach the gospel and let the others alone.” You see what I mean? All these folks, them that have the Satanic spirits incarnated in a physical body, and them that have the Holy Spirit, all of ’em are Yahweh’s, Devil and all. Now that 2520, put that up there to show you from one thing to the other. And that 2520 would be how many times 490 years. I just wanna show you where you are in time, in the purpose of Yahweh. That’s all I’m interested in is showing you what… And listen, I laid on my sick bed and instructed Dr. Harris, and the rest of ’em that’s going away, I laid on my sick bed and did that. They had direct communication. I just wasn’t laying there doing nothing. I been working the thing, showing ’em right out of my house, so don’t you think I’m gone anywhere. And then if Yahweh took this body off, took me out of this body, I’d still be working. I mean the spirit that is in this body is the Eternal Spirit. It’s that that is in this body and I hope in you. Now he showed you how many times that was. I don’t have time to go into it. (That’s enough Dr. Allen). Read there in. . .

READER: Matthew 24:11. . .

DR. KINLEY: Now here’s Matthew 24:11

READER: And many false prophets shall rise. . .

DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)

READER: and shall deceive many. . .

DR. KINLEY: Now look folks, you ought’a have sense enough, since you have a Bible, you ought’a have sense enough to try to find out something about the truth, not about me and my organization, I don’t have none. These are Yahweh’s people. “Many false prophets shall arise”

READER: and shall deceive many. . .

DR. KINLEY: Now you see that? And shall deceive many. Now here’s how some of the deception is done. Now listen, so that you can see and understand what I’m talking about. I’m trying to make it clear and plain to you, and I am reading out the Bible. Now He said “Many false prophets, (this is Yahshua the Messiah talking here in the 24th chapter of Matthew) shall rise, and they will deceive many.”

Now listen folks, listen clear, listen clean. This is another one of the messages I sent to Jerusalem by David. And we have preached and taught it for 44 years, and we’ve been challenged every which-a-way, constantly challenged, and we have sat ’em all down, and nobody is able to overcome what we teach. Now I want you to see, I want you to understand, I want to know, I wanna remove your doubts and your fears about what’s being taught, and about the real truth of the matter. Yahshua the Messiah when He came into the world, what did He do? He fulfilled the Law and the Prophets. What is contained in the Law, carnal ordinances, all of ’em, such as water baptismLord suppersfoot washings, and many other ordinances that was in it, He fulfilled them. Now here come many false prophets in the world and they deceive many. Now you see how they got deceived? Now listen, let me say this to you. There was no Lord’s supper, no passover supper given to no Gentile in the history of the world. That is not in your Bible. Listen, I know what I’m talking about, and I fully understand what I’m talking about, and when I tell you something that’s the way it is. Now that’s what it is. Now let’s find out about it. Let’s find out whether it’s so or not. NOW YOU TAKE WHAT THE BIBLE SAY, IF YOU DON’T YOU’RE GONNA BE DECEIVED BY ONE OF THEM FALSE PROPHETS. John 3:13,14; Matt. 5:17.

READER: Matthew 5:17

DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)

READER: Think not that I am come. . .

DR. KINLEY: Now listen, look folks, look up here at me! Don’t have me up here wasting my time and yours. Just as Yahshua the Messiah said “Think not.” Why did He say that? Because that’s what they were thinking. So He told ’em said “Think not!” Read.

READER: that I am come to destroy the law and the prophets. . .

DR. KINLEY: That I am come to destroy the law and the prophets. Ambassador College , Ted Armstrong to be more specific, that’s all that’s far as he read. Now the reason why he didn’t read no further than that was because they do practice carnal ordinances. And He said “Don’t think that I come to destroy it,” which he meant that they hold on to it. And not withstanding, which I’ve already told you, it wasn’t given to the Gentiles in the first place! And in this talk here, in this discussion here, He’s not talking to the Gentiles, He’s talking to the Jews that are gathered up around the mount. NOW THAT’S WHAT’S IN YOUR BIBLE, SO YOU STOP ARGUING ABOUT IT AND GET IN LINE. Think not that I come to destroy the law and the prophets. . .

READER: I am not come to destroy. . .

DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)

READER: but to fulfill. . .

DR. KINLEY: But to fulfill! Now that’s why He come. Listen here, Isaiah 46:9&10. Now listen at what I’m telling you folks, everything I’m saying to you is important! I ain’t gonna say nothing to you only that which important. Now in Isaiah 46:9&10, and I’m cutting it up

short. You can look at it if you want to, and I don’t have no objection. I been asking people to read behind me all the time to see whether the things I say to you is true or not. Now He declared the end right from the beginning. Now Yahshua the Messiah could not come in and institute nothing. Why not? Because Yahweh has declared the end from the beginning, and all He could do was fulfill that which is already instituted. You do not have in your Bible, from back to back, no place where Yahweh, Elohim, God or Jesus Christ, the Holy Ghost or Yahshua, ever said anything in your Bible, from back to back, about a Gentile being baptized in physical water. Ain’t nothing said about him eating no Lord supper or no Passover supper. That means the holy mass and all the rest is wrong. It ain’t nothing about no footwashing, all of it was given to the Jews only. Read that, about it being given to the Jew only, Hebrews 9:10, I believe is. All right just read.

READER: which stood only in meat and drink offering and various washings. . .

DR. KINLEY: that’s right

READER: and carnal ordinances. . .

DR. KINLEY: um hum

READER: imposed on them. . .

DR. KINLEY: On them, that’s the Jew. Where are you reading at?

READER: Hebrews 9. . .

DR. KINLEY: Don’t you see it’s written to the Hebrews, it’s not written to the Gentiles. You can’t argue them things about that. Now if you just wanna argue, and just wanna go on with your hard head YOU GONNA BE LOST! Do you understand that? THE TRUE GOSPEL IS BEING PREACHED FOR A WITNESS! NOW YOU CAN WITNESS OR LET IT ALONE AND GO ON TO THE LAKE ! But read.

READER: which stood only in meats and drinks. . .

DR. KINLEY: Now it stood only in natural things, physical and natural things which pointed to the spiritual. Which stood only in meats and drinks and divers washings and carnal ordinances imposed on them until the time of the reformation. Is that what you got in your Book? If that’s not what you got, tell me about it now. All right, imposed on the Jews. Now He’s telling the Jews, don’t you think that I come to destroy the law and the prophecy I come to fulfill, and verily verily I say unto you, what?

READER: for verily verily I say unto you till heaven and earth pass, one yod or the smallest part of a letter shall in no wise pass from the law till all be fulfilled. . .

DR. KINLEY: Now do you understand that? Until every bit of it be fulfilled. Now if you’re gonna insist on water baptism, eating passover suppers… And you read the 12th chapter of Exodus and it’ll tell you that it was only on the Jew. But now look, if you’re gonna continue to insist on that, then what you have done, you have carried Him back, you have denied that He come and moved them out of the way. Now just in case you want to be stupid and hard headed about it, and you wanna go on and say “Well no, they’re not moved out of the way.” The 10th chapter of Hebrews, 10:9, read. Now if you wanna insist on that, and then these false prophets and satanic spirits incarnated in physical bodies standing all over the world, now he told you they were gone out, all right read.

READER: Hebrews 10:9. Then said He. . .

DR. KINLEY: Then said He

READER: Lo I come. . .

DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)

READER: to do thy will O Yahweh. . .

DR. KINLEY: In the volume of the Book to do thy will O Yahweh. . .

READER: He taketh. . .

DR. KINLEY: Wait a minute. Lo I come, O Yahweh… Listen close. I come, said Yahshua the Messiah, to do your will, Yahweh’s will. He does what?

READER: He taketh away the first. . .

DR. KINLEY: Now He takes away the first, those old carnal ordinances, He takes ’em away. What for and why?

READER: that He may establish the second. . .

DR. KINLEY: That he may establish the New Covenant. Now the New Covenant it does not, (——- as the Kingdom of Heaven ), it does not consist of carnal ordinances whatsoever. Now you see the Jew he don’t have to do these things, natural, to say nothing about you the Gentile which never received it in the first place. All right, when you find it read, Jeremiah 31:31. This is the New Covenant.

READER: Behold the. . .

DR. KINLEY: Now He had to take away the old one that was given to them that stood only in meats and drinks and carnal ordinances, and divers washings until the time of reformation, upon the Jew. Now He takes that away. What for? That He might establish a new one. It’s plain as the nose on your face. All right. . .

READER: Jeremiah 31:31

DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)

READER: Behold the days come saith Yahweh. . .

DR. KINLEY: Behold the days come… Now who said that? Not me, so don’t go out here and blame it on me, and say that man thus and so forth and so on. That’s the way they been doing. All right, saith Yahweh.

READER: that I will make a new covenant . . .

DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)

READER: with the house of Israel . . .

DR. KINLEY: With the house of Israel . Now the old and the new one is given to the house of Israel . . .

READER: and with the house of Judah . . .

DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)

READER: not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers…

DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)

READER: in the day that I took them by the hand. . .

DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)

READER: to bring them out of the land of Egypt . . .

DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)

READER: which my covenant they break. ..

DR. KINLEY: Now Yahweh said they didn’t keep it. Now look folks, if you were back here eating Lord suppers, or passover suppers, if you were back here, and those that are continuing to do those carnal ordinances… Now listen to what I’m talking about, I’m talking about water baptism, I’m talking about passovers, I’m talking about footwashings, and other miscellaneous ordinances that were contained in the family of carnal ordinances, that’s what I’m talking about. Now then this is what they ought to do: If you’re gonna baptize, that’s natural; if you’re gonna wash feet, that’s natural; if you’re gonna eat Lord’s suppers, that’s natural, or passover suppers, that’s natural! Now if you’re gonna do that, and since it was given to the Jews, then what you ought’a do is to be offering up sacrifices, and I’m talking about bullocks, and turtle doves and so forth and so on, and you are back under the law, and circumcision too. Circumcision was the first ordinance. Now if you’re gonna do it, that’s what you should be doing. You tell your Pastor about that. Cause he that keepeth the whole law and offendeth in one point is guilty of the whole thing. Now in this dispensation all those things are taken away. They pointed to the spirit. So now we are at that age, that dispensation is closed out, and we are now walking in the spirit.

Now if I take the Gentile, and the Gentiles they were not in that. Now in the 15th chapter of Acts of Apostles, it’s about, or concerning the Gentiles. Everywhere the Apostles went preaching, they delivered you by the Holy Spirit, not using them sacrifices and offerings, not contending for water baptism and passover suppers. Everywhere they went, among the Jews that hadn’t received, the Jews they insisted on the Gentiles being circumcised and keeping the Law of Moses. Now you this chapter, the whole chapter, and you can read it all the way through. And then the Apostles they were gathered together up there in Judea , and they said that it wasn’t necessary, ‘cause that’s what they come together for was to consider that matter. So now you got a whole Apostolic thing, and the only thing they said was necessary was that abstaining from the worshipping of idols, and blood, things strangled, and fornication. He said now, if you keep these you do well. And they were not gonna impose ’em on the

Gentiles anything as you have it out here. Now you got many false prophets, and you got all this stuff here. It’s supposed to be folks, it’s supposed to be. There ain’t nothing going on except what ought’a be. But you’re the judge, you’re suppose to know the truth about it. Yahweh has given you somebody to teach you, and you must hear or else be lost. Now that’s the reason why you have it in your Book “Beloved believe not every spirit (not everybody, every spirit), every spirit that testifieth … ” Go back and read it so you won’t say that I forced it on you.

READER: Beloved, believe not every spirit. . .

DR. KINLEY: That’s right

READER: but try the spirits whether they are of Yahweh. . .

DR. KINLEY: Now you have to try the spirits; you can’t sit around with a carnal mind and decide this, that, and the other. Believe not every spirit Every spirit that testifieth… Well you read.

READER: but try the spirits whether they are of Yahweh

DR. KINLEY: um hum

READER: because many false prophets are gone out into the world…

DR. KINLEY: Now that’s why you try ’em. Now don’t you come up saying this “Well listen, I been in the Baptist Church, or the Roman Catholic Church so long that I can’t get out of it now.” And it’s not me calling you out, it’s Yahweh saying come out of Babylon , or come out of confusion. What-a-ya want me to do that for? That ye be not partaker of her sins and receive of her plagues. Ain’t that the 18th chapter of Revelations? All right now, go ‘head on.

READER: Hereby know you the spirit of Yahweh. . .

DR. KINLEY: Now hereby know this: Now you, right by this and you’ll know it, all right.

READER: the spirit of Yahweh. . .

DR. KINLEY: The spirit of Yahweh. This is how you know it.

READER: every spirit . . .

DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)

READER: that confesseth. . .

DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)

READER: that Yahshua the Messiah is come in the flesh. . .

DR. KINLEY: Now He’s present, He’s here, and in heaven too, and here. Every spirit that testify… Now listen folks, let me make this real clean so you won’t have to be running around through the Bible trying to find something, and you don’t know what you’re looking for. In the 2nd chapter of Acts of Apostles that was the covenant that was what you were supposed to receive out there in Jeremiah, and go back to it – that every spirit that testify that Yahshua the Messiah was gonna come in the flesh. . .

Student: No, no. He’s here, present tense.

DR. KINLEY: Now that is of Yahweh. Read.

READER: and every spirit that confesseth not

DR. KINLEY: And every spirit that don’t confess it

READER: that Yahshua the Messiah is come in the flesh is not of Yahweh. . .

DR. KINLEY: Did you hear that? Now you can go ‘head on stubborn if you want to, that’s up to you, that’s not none of my business. My business is telling you the truth. Now that just simply means that the Holy Spirit was poured out on the Day of Pentecost. Yahshua the Messiah rose from the dead a quickening spirit, and He’s delivered us from the bondage of corruption that we might walk in the light. He’s given us the Holy Spirit to guide and to lead us, to identify and to know the difference between the false and the true, right and wrong, good and bad. Every spirit that testifies.., now read on. Now the other spirit that testifies the other way, now what’s that?

READER: is not of Yahweh. . .

DR. KINLEY: Well you read it.

READER: and every spirit that confesseth Not

DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)

READER: that Yahshua the Messiah. . .

DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)

READER: is come in the flesh. . .

DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)

READER: is not of Yahweh. . .

DR. KINLEY: Now do you see that? That’s not of Yahweh. I’m not wasting no words folks, I had a vision and revelation. I used to be a pastor, assistant pastor in the Church of God for 15 years, and I preached that He hadn’t come. And I preached carnal ordinances just like everybody else does out there, washed feet, baptized, ate passover suppers, and everything, but they are removed. Moved why and how? It’s because that Yahshua the Messiah come and fulfilled it and moved ’em out the way, so that in this dispensation and in this present age, you walk in the spirit. And that’s what all of this pointed to, every animate and inanimate object, everything you could think of in the universe, sun, moon, stars, angels, and everything else, all of this pointed to the spirit. And those carnal ordinances that were given Israel was nothing but a shadow and type, that Yahshua the Messiah moved when He came in the flesh. Now Yahweh sent me into the world to tell you these things. And nobody has been able in 44 years to prove it wrong, and I’ve challenged them all, Roman Catholics and Protestants. I’ve been to Rome too. So far as the names is concerned, it doesn’t make any difference. Do you see that Jimmy? You’ve been taught the real truth. Now after the days, (24th chapter of Matthew) hold what you got there, I’ll just make this statement here. After the days of the tribulation, Yahshua said the true Gospel of the kingdom would be preached in all the world. The Apostles preached it back there in the beginning, then it was a lot of persecution. Many in some parts, many of the people were killed, because the Jew, and the Jew right at the present time he’s still under the dispensation of the law. And many were killed because they did not worship, and then again that’s according to the law. All over the world they were killed because they didn’t do what the Roman Catholics and Protestants is telling you now and they were put to death, millions upon top of millions. Six million Jews here not to long ago because they wouldn’t hold the belief. All right, what you got there?

READER: Matthew 24:9

DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)

READER: Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted. . .

DR. KINLEY: Now I’m going back to the 31st chapter of Jeremiah. Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted

READER: and shall kill you. . .

DR. KINLEY: Now you see there? Them boys that have gone over seas to preach the gospel, and these that are here, and all around over the United States of America is subject to being killed for preaching against water baptism, to the Jew and to the Gentile, for preaching against the mass. That’s what Yahshua the Messiah said, I didn’t say it. And carnal ordinances were given to the Jews, many of ’em were killed. The preachers open the Bible over there in the law and tell you that Yahweh or God said for you to do so and so and so and so, and swears by all that’s holy that he’s preaching the gospel. You see what I’m talking about? They’re subject to being killed; they’re dependent upon Yahweh. All right.

READER: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name’s sake. . .

DR. KINLEY: Now look here, now listen, do you see that name up there on the board? You’re hated for it. Yahweh, you’re hated for that. Isn’t that what them churches use, Lord, God, and Jesus Christ? And Yahshua, you’re hated for that. Elohim’s not a name it’s a title, now you’re really hated for it. No sooner than you get to someone, and you tell ’em about Yahweh and Yahshua, they hate you for that. Said “Well my Bible says…” In the King James version, it does. There’s very few Bibles out on the market know the name, true names. “My Bible says Jesus Christ,” and they can’t prove that. I mean really hate you too, put you to death for it. That’s the reason why I’m so careful about telling you, you be careful, you watch out, don’t walk around here blind and argue with everybody you see out on the streets about them names, cause some of ’em will wanna ambush you and kill you. If they wanna know something about it tell ’em come to class. And we’re gonna preach the names even if somebody get up and brings a gun in and shoot you. I told you I was prepared and ready to die. We’re gonna tell you the truth, and if you don’t obey you’re gonna be lost. I’m giving it to you in plain old corn-bread fashion.

Now I wanna show you something else. Said every spirit that testify, and what they said about the false prophets gone out here and don’t have the spirit, and they put their application in these natural things that was done under the dispensation of the law. Now I want you to read Jeremiah, I want you to read the second covenant. Read.

READER: Behold the days come saith Yahweh that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel . . .

DR. KINLEY: Now just to cut that up real short, He’s gonna take away these things, the natural things and renew with Yahshua, the blood of Yahshua the Messiah, and bring you over to the new covenant. Take you away from that and bring you into the new covenant. Do you understand me in what I’m talking about children? When He was crucified and resurrected from the dead and poured out His Holy Spirit on the Day of Pentecost, 2nd chapter of Acts of Apostles — — — —. You don’t have to come down here to do it, leave it at home. And from that time on we’re suppose to walk in the spirit; this is a spiritual dispensation.

Now let me explain that. Now Williams what you have now, you have the Holy Spirit in a physical body; that’s what’s in this age. Now when you get the Holy Spirit in this physical body, this mortal body, this natural body, (have the Holy Spirit), that is Yahshua the Messiah. You have that in a physical body . . . [Side 2 of Tape]. . . Now then come up here, up here; come up to this right here. [Pointing to something on the chart] Now I wanted tell you what you’ll have in the age to come so that you can’t say now, when you leave here, that I didn’t preach the gospel to you, and I didn’t tell you the truth about it, and I didn’t tell you what was in this age and what’s in the age to come, you can’t say that. Now when He’s revealed from heaven, see right here, this is where the revelation is. And then when He’s revealed from heaven, (what shall take place?), the revelation of Yahshua the Messiah. And then you will have, instead of a physical body with all these aches and pains in it, you will have an immortal body, or you will have a spiritual body. You will be just like the angels, incorporeal. That’s in the ages to come at the revelation of Yahshua the Messiah.

Now I wanna read to you what Yahweh, (about excuses), Jeremiah 31:31, and I wanna show you that you don’t have no excuse for nothing, nooo. Read on. And you’ll have to.., when you find out about it and get straighten out about it, read.

READER: New Covenant?

DR. KINLEY: Yes I want the New Covenant

READER: but this shall be a covenant that I will make with the house of Israel . . .

DR. KINLEY: Now this is the covenant that He made with the Jew back here.

READER: after those day. . .

DR. KINLEY: After the death burial and resurrection. He come and fulfilled it and move it out of the way, after that, this over here. All right read on.

READER: after those days saith Yahweh. . .

DR. KINLEY: that’s right

READER: I will put my law in their inward part. . .

DR. KINLEY: Now He’s gonna put His law in them. It’s written by the Holy Spirit or in these men. That’s the Law of the Spirit of Life which was in Yahshua the Messiah, He’s put that in you. And now listen Brethren, the old was written on tables of stones, the new one is written in the heart. All right read on.

READER: I will put my law in their inward parts and write it in their hearts. . .

DR. KINLEY: and write it in their hearts

READER: and will be their Elohim. . .

DR. KINLEY: And I’ll be their Elohim

READER: and they shall be my people. . .

DR. KINLEY: And they shall be my people. Read on…

READER: and they shall teach no more every man his neighbor. . .

DR. KINLEY: See, there’s no need teaching every man your neighbor. That’s the reason why we say the Holy Spirit is the teacher down here, not me, not Dr Gross or Bishop Williams, or Bishop Short, not Dr. Gross, but the Holy Spirit is the teacher. Now the Holy Spirit can’t teach carnal ordinances. The Holy Spirit can’t teach that He hasn’t come. The Holy Spirit can’t teach that He’s not in you. He can’t teach that. All right read on.

READER: and they shall teach no more every man his neighbor. . .

DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)

READER: and every man his brother. . .

DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)

READER: saying. . .

DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)

READER: know ye Yahweh. . .

DR. KINLEY: Know ye… See our theme is this, come to school and know Yahweh as He really is and as He actually exists; that’s what our aim is. All right, read on Doc.

READER: for they shall all know me. . .

DR. KINLEY: I want you to understand this, now this is some of the parts I want you to understand. For they shall all know me.

READER: from the least of them. . .

DR. KINLEY: From the, from the least of the peasants. . .

READER: unto the. . .

DR. KINLEY: No no! No! No! They shall all know me from the least… And as David said “I’d rather be a doorkeeper in the house of Yahweh than to be dwelling in the tents with the wicked.” And He said now they shall all know me from the least to the greatest, or to the high priest on back, and down to the most humble one of ’em. They will all know Him. There will not be any necessity of them saying “Know ye Yahweh,” for all of His people that have the Holy Spirit, they will know Him. They will know Him from the pulpit to the door. Do you know Yahweh? Do you know Him? Remember, this covenant was given to the Jews. Now look, 15th chapter of St. John says this: “I am the true vine (Yahshua the Messiah) I am the true vine. Every branch that bears fruit He purges it and it brings forth more fruit, and every branch that don’t bear fruit He cuts it off and burns it.” The 11th chapter of Romans says this, (now I’m cutting it up short) the Gentiles were grafted in the branches, uh, were grafted in among the branches. Now if you read down there Freddy, (11th chapter of Romans), you couldn’t baptize, you couldn’t plant the Gentile because he’s grafted in among the branches. The tree has done grown up, they have the Holy Spirit, and they’re grown up seven years in it’s ——. And the Gentile, beginning with Cornelius, (we know what we talking bout), was grafted in by faith and not by the works of the law.

Now Peter recommended that he be baptized. What he was trying to do was to defend himself among the others; they didn’t know either. and the Holy Spirit was there in the 15th chapter of Acts of Apostles, then Peter told ’em “Now, you know brethren some time ago, the Holy Spirit made choice among us that the Gentiles should hear the words of Yahweh by my mouth and believe.” And he denied water baptism, and said that wasn’t necessary, which I’ve already told you about. And all the Apostles and the elders… For goodness sakes let’s not forget that the Holy Spirit was there, or the Holy Ghost was there and was well pleased with what they said. How ‘bout that? Now I got up here to tell you about that. And I got up here to tell you about my illness. I got up here to tell you that Yahweh give me a vision and a revelation; I didn’t go into that. And I ain’t got a thing to boast and to brag about.

The world lieth in wickedness. And Yahweh (now listen at what I’m saying) is gathering out a few, gathering out those people that are to be saved, and we’re right down to the close of it. And it is incumbent upon this school (I hate to say that because it seems selfish), but it’s the same way it was when Yahshua the Messiah was here. The Pharisees, and the Scribes, and the Zealots, and so forth and so on they were always (they didn’t understand spiritual things), and they were always on Him about something. If He’d sit one down the other would rise up; another rise up and He’s sat him down. So now we’re interested in the reality of it.

And the next thing we have, is when Yahweh, that’s Yahshua the Messiah, be revealed from heaven, change our mortal body into a glorious body, you’ll be just like He is. That’s what’s coming up,

shortly! Now —— went into this: See now 1656, from the Garden of Eden to the flood was only 1656 years. From the flood down to the crucifixion was 2377, and down from there to where we are now, and Yahshua the Messiah said except those days be shortened, (what days), days of the tribulation be shortened, (in the 24th chapter of Matthew), there wouldn’t be any flesh saved. In other words, there wouldn’t be anybody walking around with the Holy Spirit in them. Why? Because them Satanic spirits is so prevalent, taking you back to the natural things, and won’t bring you around to the spiritual in this dispensation and this age. And everybody you see would be fooling with, which Yahshua the Messiah is come, and of course the Word of Yahweh which we’ve already read to you, is moved them out of the way. What for? So that you could walk in the spirit. The Apostle Paul said in the 8th chapter of Romans “There is therefore now (in the present dispensation and age) no condemnation to them that are in Yahshua the Messiah who walk not after the flesh but after the spirit. For what the law could not do (water baptism couldn’t wash away nobody’s sin) for what the law could not do…” Read it Freddy.

READER: for the law of the spirit of life. . .

DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)

READER: in Yahshua the Messiah. . .

DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)

READER: hath made me free. . .

DR. KINLEY: Now wait a minute now folks, hath made me free

READER: from the law of sin and death. . .

DR. KINLEY: You see it now? Hath made me free from the law of sin and death. Made you free! Not you, cause you wasn’t involved with it in the first place. I’ve already done told you there’s no such thing. See here’s what happened. Yahweh made a promise to Abraham that in his seed He’d bless all the families of the earth. Listen now, read it and you figure this one out. Since you’re so smart and you don’t, you ask for facts. Yahweh made a promise to Abraham that in his seed that He’d bless all of the families of the earth, that means the Jew and Gentiles, 430 years before the law was given. In other words, He promised to bless both the Jew and the Gentile. Everything that is not a Jew is a Gentile, and everything that is not a Gentile is a Jew. So Yahweh promised to bless all of them. So now in that promise He also said that He would multiply Israel ‘s seed as

the sands of the sea and as the stars of heaven; He would multiply their seed. Now listen folks. Are you listening? Make sure you’re listening. There isn’t but 15, well there really isn’t 15 now (get the World Almanac, get the scripture and prove it yourself) there isn’t quite 15 million physical Jews in the world today. Does that seem anything to you like the stars of the heaven and the sands of the sea. It’s not 15 million. — —- see what the difference is. Well, what’s the difference? Try Romans 8th and last verse. You’re right there, read the last verse.

READER: nor heights. . .

DR. KINLEY: Read the verse above it.

READER: For I am persuaded. . .

DR. KINLEY: I am persuaded

READER: that neither death. . .

DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)

READER: nor life. . .

DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)

READER: nor angels. . .

DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)

READER: nor principalities. . .

DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)

READER: nor power

DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)

READER: nor things present. . .

DR. KINLEY: Now wait a minute! Or things present (the present situation), nor things present; present things. You got a lot of beautiful churches, nobody wants to belong to one that’s down there in the . . . [About 10 second blank spot]. . . Read.

READER: nor things to come. . .

DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)

READER: nor height. . .

DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)

READER: nor depth. . .

DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)

READER: nor any other creature

DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)

READER: shall be able to separate us. . .

DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)

READER: from the love of Yahweh. . .

DR. KINLEY: Separate who?

READER: us

DR. KINLEY: All right then, I just wanted.., separate us from the love of Yahshua the Messiah.

READER: which is in Yahshua the Messiah. . .

DR. KINLEY: Which is in Yahshua the Messiah. Read on. Now what we’re talking about, we’re talking about the Jew.

READER: I say the truth in the Messiah. . .

DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)

READER: I lie not. . .

DR. KINLEY: I’m not lying

READER: my conscience also bearing me witness. . .

DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)

READER: in the Holy Spirit. . .

DR. KINLEY: In the Holy Spirit… See he’s telling the truth about it, and he’s asking the Holy Spirit IN HIS CONSCIENCE to bear witness of what he said. Read.

READER: that I have great heaviness. . .

DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)

READER: and continual sorrow. . .

DR. KINLEY: and just continual sorrow for them

READER: in his heart.

Dr. Kinley : In his heart. Read on. I’m talking about the Jew that is accepted Yahshua the Messiah. Read on.

READER: for I could wish that myself were accursed

DR. KINLEY: I could wish that I, myself, were accursed. Just like Moses when the children of Israel made this golden calf. And Moses said if you won’t forgive them, then I pray… And Yahweh said “Whosoever sins against me, that’s the one I’m gonna blot out. Him will I blot out; blot out of my Book that I’ve written.” Read on.

READER: for I could wish that myself were accursed from the Messiah for my brethren. . .

DR. KINLEY: for my brethren

READER: my kinsmen according to the flesh. . .

DR. KINLEY: My kinsmen according to the flesh. If Yahweh would just take me, and take the sin off Israel , and reduce it down to —- —-. All right read on.

READER: who are Israelites. . .

DR. KINLEY: Listen, who are Israel .., listen who are Is-real-lights. So all these natural things back there pointed to the spirit; ain’t nothing real. All right read on.

READER: to whom pertaineth the adoption. . .

DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)

READER: and the glory. . .

DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)

READER: and the covenant. . .

DR. KINLEY: And all the old, both these covenants pertaineth to Him. I just got through telling you the first and second one was given to them. Didn’t I tell you that? Read on.

READER: and the giving of the law. . .

DR. KINLEY: Didn’t I tell you that? It was given to the Jews. . .

READER: and the service of Yahweh. . .

DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)

READER: and the promise. . .

DR. KINLEY: And the promise, and the promises. And the promises… Read on.

READER: whose are the fathers, and of whom. . .

DR. KINLEY: Who are the fathers

READER: and of whom as concerning the flesh. .

DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)

READER: the Messiah came. . .

DR. KINLEY: Yahshua the Messiah came. Read on.

READER: who is over all. . .

DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) Just read on.

READER: blessed forever. . .

DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) Read

READER: Not as though the word of Yahweh hath taken none effect…

DR. KINLEY: I want the last two verses, last two verses in the 2nd chapter of Romans.

READER: For he is not a Jew. . .

DR. KINLEY: Listen, get this straight. He is not a Jew

READER: which is one outwardly. . .

DR. KINLEY: Which is one outward in the flesh

READER: neither is that circumcision. . .

DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)

READER: which is outward in the flesh. . .

DR. KINLEY: —- —- —-. So you can see how Yahweh has multiplied His seed according to His promise. Now Freddy get in the 3rd chapter of Galatians and find there where it says you were — —-. And you being (not in Galatians but wherever it is there), and you being a Gentile… Abraham had two sons, one by the bond woman, and one by the… You see what I’m talking about? So now those that were by the bond woman, which is the Gentiles, he was an heir according to the promise. So now he’s been, the Jew’s been, the natural Jew has been broken off, all of ’em; them that’s over there and everywhere else has been broken off because of unbelief. And then Yahweh just grafted in… The Jew that didn’t believe, and the Gentiles he was grafted in among the branches. The tree’s planted. The tree has to be grown up, and the tree has to be 7 years old. So he’s grafted in, and the multiplication of many as the sands of the sea and as the stars of heaven. I’m a Jew, not outwardly, but inwardly, so are you. Read.

READER: but he is a Jew. . .

DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)

READER: which is one inwardly. . .

DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)

READER: and circumcision is that of the heart. . .

DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)

READER: in the spirit. . .

DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)

READER: and not in the letter

DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)

READER: whose praise is not of men. . .

DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)

READER: but of Yahweh. . .

DR. KINLEY: But of Yahweh. Do you see that now? Now listen folks, I hope and trust that you have gotten something out of this, what I had to say to you, and what I’ve already said. I hope you understand that Yahshua the Messiah has come twice. He come in the flesh, died, resurrected, and poured out His spirit, which is Yahshua the Messiah coming back into you as of now, in this present age. Which you nor the Jews should be concerned about these natural things. We’re walking after the spirit; I read it. And he that don’t see this is a false prophet, is a false teacher, is a Satanic spirit incarnated in a physical body lying to you like a dog. And if you follow his pernicious ways you will be lost. I give it to you straight.

I also told you about myself. I don’t have no doubt. I’m ready! As Peter said, I think it’s in the first chapter of Peter, “And you who are kept by faith through the Holy Spirit, (not getting ready) but ready to be revealed in the last day.” That is what is keeping me. According to my promise to Yahweh, not just here the other day, but years and years, 44 more years to be more specific, I have kept it; I am ready; I’m ready. I’ve been sick, but as far as me and my part of it’s concerned, I’d rather pass to be with Yahshua the Messiah, and live with the Father. I’m tired of folks cussing me out and saying every evil thing about me, I’m tired of that, sick and tired of it. And I’ve also been beat up. And I’m sick and tired of it, worrying with the Devil incarnated in a physical body, and I’m trying my best to tell you the truth, and show you how the thing is. I’m sick and tired of it, and the people’s hard heads. But this is the way it’s supposed to be. It was that way when Yahshua the Messiah was here, see they’re not gonna listen. I told you what was in the age past and gone, I told you what’s in the present age, since I been on the floor, and I told you what was coming up, since I been here. And I hope and trust that you’ve gotten something out of it, and Yahweh bless you.

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