JOSHUA THE SON OF NUN
Lecturer Given By: Dr. Henry Clifford Kinley
Location: Los Angeles, California
Date: 1969 or 1970
Transcribed By: Vanessa Kinley
Proofreaders: Sharon Ross, Carla Davis
Reference: Beverly Allen
Transcriber’s notation (…) – Indicates when a word or phrase could not be determined.
DR. KINLEY: …so that if you never see me, you’ll always remember. Now I’m going back in the East leaving at 3:30 p.m. to visit the State of Ohio. Now I don’t plan on running around to all of the different schools back there; I don’t plan that at all. Now here’s the reason why: first, because I don’t feel so good. I’m 74 years old going on 75. And I would like very much for the younger people in this whole entire school to feel that they are a part of it, and they are responsible for the promotion of this teaching, not only here in Los Angeles, but everywhere. Now then, you can see my reason for saying that I don’t plan to run all over the place. I don’t feel so good. I’m not complaining now, I don’t mean it that way, but I did think it was my indispensable duty.
Now Mitchell in New York, and Mickey in the State of Michigan, and Dr. Maclin in Chicago, Illinois, with that school, and also Billy Carroll in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada; they want to get together a little eastern assembly there and to kinda bring the thing down to us. So it’s better to do it that way, than it is for me to try to travel all around the country and about. So they called me, and we communicated and they understand it. So that’s what I’m planning on doing, going back to the East.
Now let me ask you, can you hear what I’m saying in the back?
RESPONSE: [Affirmative Responses from Audience]
DR. KINLEY: Well it’s that fan back there that’s making all that noise, but the people have to have some air, it’s hot in here, very hot, and so I’ll try my best to speak so that you can hear me. Now I had the scripture lesson read this morning the 24th chapter of Joshua. Now I’m not gonna try to do no whole lot of preaching and teaching, but what I am going to try to do this morning is try to open up your understanding a little bit so that you can understand this whole entire set up, so far as the purpose of Yahweh is concerned.
Now every time that someone gets up here to read the scripture please sit down, be quiet and pay attention. Now that’s the only way that you can learn something. Then not only do you pay attention, now listen at what I’m saying, be obedient to what is said. It doesn’t do any good to get up here and preach your heart and soul and all those kinda of things out to you and then you don’t pay any attention and then you don’t obey, it don’t, it doesn’t mean a thing.
Now did you … uh, now you have heard that 24th chapter of Joshua read. Now we told you, and expounded and explained to you who Joshua was. We’ve been through all of that and it’s absolutely a matter of impossibility for me or anybody else, for that matter, to get up here and preach in two hours or four as for that matter, unless you follow the continuity all along so that you know the entire purpose of Yahweh, you understand, all through the dispensations and ages, and so forth and so on. Now it won’t do no good to explain it if you don’t pay attention so you can learn something about it. You get the point?
RESPONSE: Yeah.
DR. KINLEY: Now you’ll have to know so that you’ll know who’s right and who’s wrong out there and it will eliminate the doubts and the fears, and all from your mind, then you can see the reality of it. Now let me make it a little bit clearer. Now Joshua that you read, and you just had it read there, that name is not correct. It should be Yahshua. Now Yahshua was with Moses. Now listen at what I’m gonna say: He was walking around with Moses right in the flesh, that was Yahweh our Elohim walking around down on the ground down in Egypt. You understand?
RESPONSE: Right.
DR. KINLEY: Are you following me now?
RESPONSE: Yes, sir.
DR. KINLEY: Now here comes the question: Somebody say, “Well if that’s so, this that and the other, how could He be born of the Virgin Mary?” You get the point, now ain’t that the birth of Jesus? Whose name was not Jesus, but Yahshua. No, let me tell you this, what you do is underestimate the power of Yahweh to do what He wants to do.
Now Satan is no hindrance, no obstruction, but he is an asset to Yahweh, not a liability. Now this is why I’m talking about that. Yahweh just stepped … took on a physical body and walked around on earth among the children of Israel down in Egypt. Well somebody say, “Well I don’t see how that can be.” So I know that; that’s what I am trying to tell you now.
If you paid attention to what was read in that book this morning … and just in case you wasn’t here in time and you didn’t hear it read, when you go back home from this class sit down and read the 24th chapter of Joshua. Now Joshua took on this, uh, uh … Yahweh. Now we got Yahweh, and we got Yahshua and we got Elohim all churned up here together, and it’s impossible for you to follow it with a carnal mind and see through it. And while I’m on that score, I wanna to get this over to you too. The same Yahweh, the same Elohim, that’s walking around in physical bodies. I told you that He sent me in the world in this last day just before this age here closes, to expound and to explain and to make known unto you, so that you can have some hope, so that you will not be discouraged and dismayed.
Now listen again at what I’m gonna say, pay strict attention to it. If you would read the 24th chapter of Matthew, the 21st chapter of Luke, and the 13th chapter of Mark, now listen. The world is in a worse shape now than it ever has been in the history of the ages. There never has been a time like this, and there never will be. Do you understand? There is more deception, and Yahweh is giving the devil power to go out here and deceive the people. And He’s giving His ministers, true ministers more power than He gives the devil and the fight’s got to go on that’s all there is to it. And there’s nothing happening what isn’t in harmony with His purpose. No problem at all for Him to get the war stopped in Vietnam. No problem at all for Him to get the war stopped over in Israel; that’s no problem at all. That’s going according to the purpose, His program. Do you understand it?
Now Yahshua, I am gonna try hard now, and you’re gonna sit quiet and you’re gonna listen so that I can try to give you a knowledge and lead you straight on through to the things that you should know to keep you from being discouraged and dismayed. Now Joshua or Elohim or the angel appeared unto Moses at this burning bush that we pictured here on the chart. Now if you’re gonna ever understand your bible, that’s where you gonna have to start with Moses. Now somebody said, “Well, naw, don’t you start in Genesis 1?” Naw. Then somebody, that don’t understand what I am talking about will say, “Well, I disagree with him.” How can you help but disagree with me when you don’t know what it’s all about?
RESPONSE: Right.
DR. KINLEY: Now you notice I didn’t start with Abraham, I didn’t start with Isaac, I didn’t start with Jacob, and I didn’t start with Adam, and neither did we start with Enoch; we didn’t start with Noah. Well, there might be a question: “Why not? Well why didn’t you start back there?” Get the point? Now here is the reason I didn’t start there, because Moses was the first and only man that Yahweh appeared to and outlined or showed or revealed or made known what His entire purpose was and He showed it to him in visions and revealed to him in visions so there wouldn’t be no question about it. Now listen if Yahweh showed it to Moses, how could anybody else know anything about it other than him? He didn’t reveal it to nobody else.
RESPONSE: That’s right.
DR. KINLEY: Now do you see why I start at Moses?
RESPONSE: That’s right.
DR. KINLEY: Now look at the 24th chapter of Luke. Now you’ll have to hurry I got a long ways to go and a short time to make it. Read there in the 24th chapter of Luke, where Luke said that Jesus, that Jesus or Joshua, or Yahshua, He began at Moses.
READER: Luke 24:25
DR. KINLEY: Luke 24:25
READER: Then he said unto them…
DR. KINLEY: Then he said unto them…
READER: oh fools…
DR. KINLEY: oh fools…
READER: and slow of hearts…
DR. KINLEY: and slow of hearts to believe…
READER: all that the prophets have spoken…
DR. KINLEY: all that the prophets have spoken…
READER: ought not the Messiah to have suffered…
DR. KINLEY: ought not the Messiah have suffered…
READER: these things…
DR. KINLEY: these things…
READER: and to enter into his glory…
DR. KINLEY: and to enter into his glory…
READER: and beginning at Moses…
DR. KINLEY: Now you see that now? Now He’s beginning at Moses. Now if He’s gonna begin there that’s where you are gonna have to begin. Now I wanna let you know what I’m talking about there too. Moses wrote the Genesis, and the Exodus, the Leviticus, and the Numbers, and the Deuteronomy; Moses wrote ‘em. You have to begin … Do you understand?
RESPONSE: Yes.
DR. KINLEY: Now that means this: There will be no need for you coming up here telling me about the book of Enoch. There will be no need for you coming up here telling me about the book of Abraham. Do you see what I’m saying? Or the book of Jasher, Moses didn’t write that. Listen now, Yahweh wrote that book Himself and Moses just seen his name in it, when he was up in the mountain along with all the rest of ‘em. Now you see how you have to begin there with Moses? Now that’s after the flood, after the Garden of Eden and everything. Now do you see now?
Now this angel appeared in this burning bush and talked with Him; I said this angel. Now don’t forget now somebody said, “Well you said angel, a while ago you said Yahweh, and pretty soon you’ll be talking about Elohim. Now I’m confused; I don’t understand you.” Well I’ll fix it so you can understand that’s what I am trying to do now. Yahweh said to Moses, “I will be what I will to be.” I am the Angel in the bush. I am the Elohim in the bush. You see?
RESPONSE: Right.
DR. KINLEY: Do you get the point?
RESPONSE: Right.
DR. KINLEY: I am Yahweh in the bush. I’m everything there is in the bush and without me there isn’t nothing. I am the Michaels, the Gabriels, the archangels, Moses and everything else, that’s me. I will be anything I want to be. You understand?
There is always somebody trying to question, “Well, why did God pick out some idiot like Henry C. Kinley?” Somebody asked that question. Why did He do that? Well, why don’t you ask Him? You see we just got a whole lot of fool talk and haven’t stopped to meditate nothing about how foolish and ignorant you do talk, which means that He’s you and He’s everybody else, you understand? That is what He is, He’s the “All in All,” folks that’s it. Now do you see what I’m talking about?
Now I’m trying to lead you upon this thing so you can see, so that you can understand, so that you won’t need to blunder no more. Now follow me close from here on. And when I call these scriptures, you remember, bear this in mind, because it’s some folks setting around here and they’re looking at the clock, see they’re looking at the clock. Don’t you waste a hold lot of time trying to find what I am trying to tell you about and have them looking at the clock while you looking at the scriptures, and the whole thing going over their heads cause they won’t be benefited.
Now Yahshua … Now, Yahweh told Moses, now you heard that, there’s no need of me keeping on, keeping on, and keeping on, going over all that at the burning bush. He told Moses to take off his shoes and He gave him signs. And Moses was just like us complaining about his impediment of speech, and his inadequacy and his insufficiency to go back down into Egypt and not only that, “But I killed a man down there, and I run off out here and I don’t want to go back down in there and face him.” Now this is what he didn’t know, and He told him right there at the burning bush, said “Now I took care of him; he’s not alive down there anymore, so you don’t need to worry about him.” You see what I mean? Moses didn’t even know he was dead, you see? So he’s telling Moses about it here at the burning bush, you follow?
Then Moses told Him about his impediment of speech. Said, “Who made man’s mouth?” Get the point? Now who does the teaching, Yahweh Elohim? And for them to go around you know fooling people, disqualified to teach, and after this springs a long line of deceivers. You understand? Not many wise, not many noble are called. And the most humble person, and sometimes the illiterate he’ll pick up. Now that’s how His power is manifested. He chose the weak things of this world to bring to naught. He said, “I will destroy the wisdom of the wise and bring to naught the understanding of the prudent.” Now here’s how He did that. See when he moved them carnal things, bringing them on to this side of the cross, it’s blowed up, cause you don’t know a thing bout what you are talking about. You understand what I mean there?
RESPONSE: Yes.
DR. KINLEY: I mean when Yahshua the Messiah fulfilled these natural things and nailed them to the cross and brought on this present dispensation, and you walk in the spirit all of that is gone. Every bit of those natural carnal ordinances is gone: water baptism, foot washing, lord suppers, and communions and so forth, all of it’s gone, so far as natural things. Now that was the problem under the dispensation of the law, which is here on the chart. And every ordinance that Yahweh gave to ‘em was literal, it was physical, it was natural, it was given to the Jews not the Gentiles. Now that’s what we’re saying. That’s under the law.
Now watch this one; watch this one. Yahshua the Messiah said, “I come to fulfill.” They say He’s instituting. You understand? It’s just as pretty as it could be, it’s beautiful. Now here’s what I wanna tell you. Now this is the law here contained in ordinances. Look up here now on this chart, right here. You see these hearts in here?
RESPONSE: Right.
DR. KINLEY: Now this is day by day in logical sequence. That is the law, the law of the Spirit of Life, which is in Yahshua the Messiah, so says the Apostle. Right?
RESPONSE: Right.
DR. KINLEY: Now I try to tell you the difference. There’s a difference between the Mosaic Law here and the law contained in the ordinances, and the law of the Spirit of Life. That law of the Spirit of Life, that which brought everything into existence. You will never be from under it. You see what I mean? Now you quit tangling it up, this law, the Law of the Spirit, the law contained in ordinances. Now let’s throw another law in there and that’s your Civil Law, your Constitutional Law. Now you have three laws, and now you go around and mixing ‘em all up and churning ‘em all up together and you don’t know what it’s all about. You get the point?
RESPONSE: Um, hum.
DR. KINLEY: Now, let’s get to the hard part. Now remember, and you listen while I try to get this story together. Now you see that He appeared to Moses. This at the burning bush is a vision. It was other bushes setting out there near Mount Bushy that wasn’t on fire; see it wasn’t like that; nothing like that. But he was seeing a vision, a burning bush, and it was consumed. And he just had to come a little bit closer. He drew near to investigate it, and Yahweh said to him, “Come nigh hinder, Moses. Stop where you are. Take off your shoes off of your feet for the place on the ground where you stand is holy ground.” Now Yahweh had dedicated that place (we can’t show everything) and that tabernacle, this Most Holy Place should be right where the bush is, because it represents the Shekinah. What you mean Shekinah? See it was a light flashed through the bush; don’t you know a fire or something like that, see. That’s the thing that happened when the High Priest went into the Most Holy Place every year, he only went in there one day. Now look folks, you’re in that day now. Yahweh didn’t show it to nobody but Moses back here, because He took Moses up into this mount alone and by himself. Can’t you see the impossibility of every Tom, Dick and Harry understanding that? They didn’t see it. You get the point?
On the Day of Atonement, Aaron had to go into the Most Holy Place by this pattern and alone. Don’t you see there’s no possibility of every Tom, Dick and Harry understanding that? And alone and by himself John was out there on the Isle of Patmos to confirm what Moses saw, you understand? That’s the reason why nobody could kill him. Herod stretched forth his hand and killed his brother, James, but he couldn’t do nothing to John. You see what I mean? Cause He preserved his life to be out there. Do you understand? Now watch now and listen. Now Yahshua the Messiah said, “I come to fulfill.” Is that what He said?
RESPONSE: Right.
DR. KINLEY: Now we’ve been bearing hard on that for a long time. Now if He come to fulfill, how can you say that He’s instituting? He never instituted a thing when He was here. Now let’s get this straight, so you get these two things straight. Now I said that Yahweh just took on a physical body, wasn’t born of no woman at all, and walked around down there in Egypt. I’m not talking about being born of the mother, the virgin mother Mary. I’m not talking about that. I’m talking about how it is the power of Yahweh to just take on a physical body and walked around down there. You see what I mean? That is what they are saying or calling that individual Joshua in your book. You following me now?
Now He’s down in Egypt, that’s what He’s telling them, that’s why we had the 24th chapter of Joshua read. Those are deep esoteric mysteries and deep plan. Now listen, somebody said, “Well I don’t believe it.” Well look we got plenty bible for it. We know you don’t understand the bible. How could you agree? And that’s why I’m trying to tell you about it. You see?
Now when did He appear down there? Moses slew the Egyptian and run on off here in the wilderness. He was 40 years old when he slew the Egyptian. That’s 40. Well, maybe somebody (Dr. Harris you might have to get up here; get you a seat or something around here beside that blackboard) because, I’m gonna try to ease you through this one so that after my departure you won’t, you won’t fail.
Now, to get back, 10 years Moses, let’s put it this way, Moses when he was 40 years old, having been raised up in the family of Pharaoh, Pharaoh’s daughter raised up Moses. You understand? And when he was 40 years old he went out and he saw an Egyptian smiting a Hebrew and he killed the Egyptian and buried him in the sand. Now he was 40 years old at that time. Now he run off, and he was out here in the wilderness for 40 years.
DR. KINLEY: Right?
RESPONSE: Right
DR. KINLEY: Now that’s 80 years and when he was 80 years old Yahweh appeared to him at that burning bush and told him to come back down into Egypt and to take the children of Israel out.
Now you will find some of this in the 3rd chapter of Exodus. And Moses asked him at the burning bush, “Where will He be? He said “Certainly I will be with thee.” “I’ll be right there with you.” And then Yahweh knowing sent him somewhere into a roaring beast, and if anything happens to you, you understand, you get the point? “I’ll be right with you.” Well when he got down into Egypt, him and Aaron cause Moses had an impediment of speech, he repeated over and over and over. Now watch what’s happening. That’s all Yahshua the Messiah is gonna be doing. He’s gonna repeat over and over and over and over, and over and over and over, and over and over and over and over, and with all… and over and over and over. You understand? That’s the reason why Moses had that impediment of speech. He had to stand there and say to Pharaoh the same thing seven times …
RESPONSE: All right He went by the pattern.
DR. KINLEY: Well why seven? Don’t do you see there’s seven days here, and there’s seven ages and seven dispensations, and all it’s gonna ever do is over and over and over, the same thing, and the analogies and symbols and whatnots. When Pharaoh couldn’t gather the continuity of thought expressed by Aaron, uh by Moses, well Aaron just went ahead and took over, you understand? … Get the point? Well now that’s all these charts are. It’s nothing but a repeat, and directions, just over and over and over, the same thing. Is that right?
RESPONSE: Right.
DR. KINLEY: … Did you get that one?
RESPONSE: Yes. Um-hum.
DR. KINLEY: I said did you get that one? Anybody that didn’t, hold up your hand. Alright, now here is what I mean by that, the same thing in this one is the same thing in this one, is the same thing in this one, is the same thing, is the same thing all the way. Do you see what I mean? That’s all it is. Now, get back now, he slew the Egyptian when he was 40 years old, run off and stayed out there in the wilderness for 40 years, right?
RESPONSE: Right.
DR. KINLEY: Then Yahweh spoke to him and told him to go back down there and get the children of Israel and he was 80 years old at that time. Is that almost right?
RESPONSE: Right.
DR. KINLEY: And Moses went back down there and he meets this Joshua as you call Him, which really is Yahshua, Yahshua the Messiah. Now listen, He instituted the Passover down in Egypt there, do you see? I must place a question mark: Why did He do that?
…take the lamb out, or a goat, out of the flock, drawn him out on April the 10th, Nisan or Abib in the Hebrew. Draw him out on the 10th and offer him up, put His blood on each side of the lintel of the door, is that right?
RESPONSE: Right.
DR. KINLEY: On the 10th, I mean on the 14th. Well now why couldn’t it have been some other day? He was as a Lamb slain before the foundation of the world, and He created the heavens and the earth in seven days and Moses saw it in the vision. Is that right?
RESPONSE: Yes.
DR. KINLEY: Now that’s the first step, which was back here in the realm of eternity of the creation of the heaven and the earth. It was a Lamb slain before that. You see that?
RESPONSE: Yes.
DR. KINLEY: And so it took Him seven days to create that or to show Moses the vision of the creation of it, you understand? So now since this is gonna be the second time, so then you offer him up here on the 14th, seven more, 7 and 7 is 14. Did you get that one? You follow? Now here back here is where it was instituted in reality, the purpose from back here, but to the people on this earth plane, you see, and this type and this shadow to reflect it and show it back there see He told him … upon the door and up over the door post. Is that right?
RESPONSE: Right.
DR. KINLEY: Who said that? I’m talking about Yahshua, Yahshua the Messiah now that’s who I am talking about. He told Moses and Aaron, you say, Jesus, now see who did it?
RESPONSE: Yes. Um-hum, um-hum.
DR. KINLEY: Well somebody said, “No, I thought God did that.” Well that’s what I am telling you. You see? He was walking right around as Joshua. You get it now? He just took on that physical body and walked around in it, that’s all. That’s right. Now somebody would doubt that. If you turn back to the 24th chapter, the 24th chapter of Exodus and you’’ll find there, now I want you to see what I am talking about. You will find I have to cut this up short that Joshua was Moses’ minister, that Joshua was a young man, watch it now, when He appeared down in Egypt walking around, I’m getting, getting back at it now, what I am saying now, this is the fulfillment. You see? I told you Moses was 40 years old, he slew the Egyptian, he ran out and stayed 40 years in the wilderness. Is that right?
RESPONSE: Right.
DR. KINLEY: That’s 10 years after Moses had gone out here. Ten years when Joshua was down there in Egypt, observing and beholding. Why now … after Moses had gone out. At the time He sent Moses down into Egypt he was only 30 years old. He had that body on walking around at 30 years old. Somebody say, “I don’t believe that.” How is a person going to believe that? How are you going to believe something you don’t know nothing about? If you told me you believed it, I would say, “Look buddy you just quit lying.” You get the point?
So then when He brings them on out, let me show you that, now He’s 30 years old at this time when He brings them out. That’s what you read in the 24th chapter of Joshua. Joshua assembled all the elders of Israel in Shechem and He told them that it was me, I did this and I did that and I did the other. Now He is 30 years old. Now watch this one now, it has got to be that way, there’s no other way. So now when He comes along to fulfill it, the book says that He was about 30 years old. Now He’s gonna fulfill that. Now if He’s gonna fulfill it, what was back here, you see, He has to be 30 years old here, He has to be 30 years old here, in order to fulfill it. You see that now? Not to institute it, but to fulfill it. You follow me?
RESPONSE: Yes.
DR. KINLEY: Now then, they were in the wilderness and stayed there for 40 years, put that on. [SOMEONE IS WRITING ON THE BOARD.] Joshua was with them when they went into the wilderness, put that 40 here, crossed over the River Jordan, in the conquest and invasion of Israel or Canaan’s Land and He was there 40 years. That was the land which Yahweh had promised, add it up: one hundred and ten. He died at 110, put 10 more on it. Put it right up there. How much you got there now? 120. What you put the 10 years on there for? Now they had only been here 40 years, you understand, out in Palestine 40 years. Do you understand?
Moses told them that when they were in there, you understand? Listen now every 50th year will be the Year of Jubile when all the slaves and the captives would be set free. But Joshua hadn’t been in there but 40 years. Israel hadn’t celebrated no 50th year over here, no year of Jubile, when they would set the captives free and so forth and so on. Let the land rest a whole year. You see? And Joshua gathered, gathered them together when He was 110 years old. You see that now? And He told them all about being down here in Egypt with them, talked about being over yonder with Abraham, about the flood and all about back in there. Didn’t He tell them that?
RESPONSE: Yeah. Right.
DR. KINLEY: Abraham was a long time before Moses. Oh I tell you Yahweh is so wonderful, that’s right. And He said here is Moses and told Moses at this burning bush, I appeared unto Abraham, I appeared unto Isaac, and I appeared unto Jacob. The Pharisees and Scribes, you understand, they questioned. He said, “Before Abraham was I am.” They said, “You are not yet 50 years old.” You see the point? You get the point?
RESPONSE: Yes, sir.
DR. KINLEY: … Now at this 110, that makes it 120 (10 years) in other words 10 years after Joshua had died they celebrated their first 50th year in Palestine, Canaan’s Land … Now Joshua’s 110, now I’m after something. I told you I had to cut it up short and take these short cuts. And I’m telling you now I want you to remember this after I depart. I don’t want you to forget it, ever forget it, if you don’t see me no more. Do you understand? Now 50th year, every 50th year is the Year of Jubile.
Now Joshua He told them that, that’s what’s in that book, that He fought and brought them up on out of Egypt and there is something else I want you to know, Joshua carried them across the River Jordan and this ended their conquest. How about that?
RESPONSE: Right.
DR. KINLEY: These were the ones that were born, Caleb and Joshua, now Joshua wasn’t born down there … Caleb, Eleazar and Phinehas. Now who is Phinehas? You read it here in the book, Phinehas is Eleazar’s father. Eleazar is Aaron’s… Phinehas is Aaron’s grandson. Now we talk about Yahshua being down there, we talked about it being Yahweh, we talked about it being Elohim, we talked about it being Yahshua; is that right?
RESPONSE: Right.
DR. KINLEY: That’s all. You see? Now that’s what you are, see. Don’t get jealous, don’t get jealous, just take it easy, that’s what’s there and everywhere else. If you didn’t know it before just take it easy … See that man said he was this, that and the other, do you understand? You too.
What is the difference then? It was revealed to me, I found out about it and I am trying to tell you about it, that’s all. You see the point? That’s all there is to it. Ain’t no big I’s and little you’s down here. You get the point? You are just as big as anybody else, now look this is how you find that out. And this new covenant was made with Israel, He said they will all know me from the least to the greatest even the janitor and the one that feeds the dogs out there… Folks ain’t got nothing on me, see what I am talking about? You mean the folks ain’t got nothing on you, no they ain’t got nothing on me, I ain’t got nothing on you. You say I’m the man … Do you see what I am trying to say to you?
Now the first part I told you about all three of them manifested right here, down here in Egypt them that was born from out here except Caleb, Eleazer and who else?
RESPONSE: Phinehas.
DR. KINLEY: Those were the only ones that come out and crossed over this River Jordan except Joshua, you see what I mean, ‘cause He is not born down there… You got it now? … Did you find where he was Moses minister?
RESPONSE: Uh, huh.
DR. KINLEY: Well, suppose you read it.
READER: And Yahweh…Yahweh said come up to me in the mount and be there.
DR. KINLEY: Don’t take too long now.
READER: and I will give you tables of stone and a law and commandments which I have written that thou may teach them and Moses rose up and his minister…
DR. KINLEY: Wop, wop, wop, hold it and Moses rose up and who?
READER: and his minister…
DR. KINLEY: and his minister…
READER: Joshua.
DR. KINLEY: Joshua. Now folks what I am telling you is that is Yahshua. That’s why when He pressed the loins of the virgin Mary and walked on out there. He came from Nazareth in fulfillment of the prophecy, ate that Passover in Nazareth with his parents, come walking down by the River Jordan, and when He gets to John the Baptist He comes to him to be baptized. It’s time for him to be baptized and John said I need to be baptized of you, do you understand? He said, “Suffer it to be so now John.” watch the … now, “for thus it behooves us to fulfill all this that I instituted back here.” And look He was 30 years old. He has to be 30 years old when He went through here, just like He is 30 years old over here. If there is a cloud here, it’s got to be a cloud there. Fulfilling, not instituting. That devil tells you He is instituting Christian water baptism, instituting lord supper, you understand? He’s fulfilling, you see, you get it now? He is 30 years old and when He’s down in Egypt, then 40 years. I don’t have time to go into all that. I don’t have time … Now Joshua … Mt. Zion … Jehovah Witnesses say … where you just read He told all Israel, and He told them about how … Right?
RESPONSE: Right.
DR. KINLEY: And they had made it them that were born in here, went through here and then reached Mt. Zion and the land was divided up, Joshua did it. Eleazer was there and Phinehas was there … here divided up, now those were the elders, those were the … with the exception of … Those were the ones that was with Him on Mt. Zion. The 14th chapter of Revelation, 7th chapter, 7th chapter, the 7th chapter of Revelation first now get about the 3rd verse, now I am trying to tie it in now.
READER: Saying, hurt not the earth…
DR. KINLEY: Where are you reading?
READER: 7th chapter
DR. KINLEY: I think the 3rd verse.
READER: Saying, hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our Elohim in their foreheads…
DR. KINLEY: That’s right.
READER: and I heard the number…
DR. KINLEY: Ought, ought, ought, ought, ought, ought, ought, ought, ought, right there, right there. When Israel come up out of here, Yahweh told Moses to take a collection or material that they brought up out of there, is that right?
RESPONSE: That’s right.
DR. KINLEY: And build Him a sanctuary that He might dwell among them. Is that right?
RESPONSE: Right.
DR. KINLEY: Now I have to cut it up short. This is what I am trying to show you, from 20 years old and up they had to bring that shekel of the sanctuary. Now there was 600, how many? 603.
RESPONSE: 603,550.
DR. KINLEY: Now that’s a number. Write the number on it, Doc, some kinda way. There was a number that’s wrote down in this book. Where you find it at in the book? Now I don’t have time now you find it. Now look there’s some folks up here that were born in the wilderness that went through the River Jordan, brought on up and it was divided up and there was no number. Joshua circumcised them, but didn’t reveal the number. You see? Did not reveal the number of them born in the wilderness. You see? Now He told John on the Isle of Patmos, write it in a book. John said I heard the number … Read it again.
READER: and I heard the number of them which were sealed and there were sealed 144,000…
DR. KINLEY: there were sealed 144,000…
READER: of all the tribes…
DR. KINLEY: of all the 12 tribes…
DR. KINLEY: In other words he is multiplying twelvefold. Twelve tribes up there multiplying, you understand? It‘s Yahshua the Lamb standing out there on Mount Zion … Listen folks that was their destination coming up out of Egypt? He had to take them to where they were going, they had a … that land given back to them, you understand? Say it was promised to Abraham … Do you understand what I am talking about?
Since nobody knew the number, John said I heard the voice 144,000 was multiplied, multiplied twelvefold and here’s something else I want you to know, there’s fighting going up here, there’s fighting … now you pay attention to me, never mind that moving around … all this that and the other, you know. Get the point? See, bam … You see what I am talking about? … Walked around the walls of Jericho seven times [SOUND OF MARCHING FEET] and on the last time round there fell the wall … Now that doesn’t mean there wasn’t no fighting at all back here, physical fight back here, but I’m just trying to show you how Yahweh takes care of the job you just can’t overcome it. Anything you … He will take care of the job. You get the point?
Joshua going on out there, is that right? After He crossed over the River Jordan, you understand? Now I ought to be able to … now they mourned Moses, then Joshua gives them three days. Is that right? What’s that for? Came down here 40 years in the wilderness than crossed over, was there in Egypt, you understand? That’s a death, now listen on up further … you understand? I gave it to the … now you can see why He was baptized of John … He had to do that in order to do this … Do you see it? You have to see why He had to be baptized.
Now here is something else you can see, you see we have on this chart. Now if Yahshua was 33 years old … and then crossed over … you see; now you can see where Joshua or Oshea had to stay in the wilderness for 40 years, then He crosses over the River Jordan there you see, then the 40 years there, see 40, 40, then you ought to be able to see this when He was buried in Joseph’s new tomb and He raised from the grave and tarried on earth 40 more days, back there in the wilderness 40 years … 30 years old when He went into his ministry, is that right?
RESPONSE: Right.
DR. KINLEY: Baptized and went in the wilderness and stayed 40, right?
RESPONSE: Right.
DR. KINLEY: Crucified and resurrected and tarried, there’s 40. How many is that?
RESPONSE: One hundred and ten.
DR. KINLEY: One hundred and ten. Then He tarried on earth 40 days after His resurrection and ascended on into heaven, and 10 days one day for prophetic time, one day for a year, and on the 10th day after, which is equivalent to the … He pours out the holy spirit, that makes the year of Jubilee, when the holy spirit was poured out and them that was held in the bondage of death, you understand, and all the captives … Do you understand? … Do you understand? This is the year of Jubilee we ain’t gonna do nothing else this whole year … halleluYAH … you understand? You see that?
You see how I got that 110 and see how I put that 10 on that, the year of Jubilee, you understand? Now somebody said look you got it all twisted up, that man don’t know what he’s talking about. Well I’m gonna let you read. Now I’m gonna tell you what I want you to read. Read the last couple of verses, listen, in the 11th chapter of Hebrews and while you are reading for God’s sake … as you say, these are the same … Jews being talked.
READER: of whom the world was not worthy…
DR. KINLEY: of whom the world was not worthy…
READER: they wandered in deserts…
DR. KINLEY: they wandered in deserts…
READER: and in mountains, and in dens…
DR. KINLEY: in mountains, and in dens…
READER: and caves of the earth.
DR. KINLEY: and caves of the earth.
READER: And these all…
DR. KINLEY: And these all…
READER: having obtained a good report…
DR. KINLEY: having obtained a good report…
READER: through faith…
DR. KINLEY: through faith…
READER: received not the promise.
DR. KINLEY: received not the promise.
READER: Yahweh having provided…
DR. KINLEY: Yahweh having provided…
READER: some better thing for us…
DR. KINLEY: some better thing for us…, read.
READER: that they without…
DR. KINLEY: … them that reached Mt. Zion back there with Joshua … what I’m talking about, the 144,000 and that’s the reason John said he looked and saw another number that no man could number. Read the 11th chapter, is that right? He was caught up, talking about those Jews, you understand, that was back there … We gonna to read and see if it ain’t so and then the 12th chapter of Hebrew and see if it ain’t so. We want you to read from the 20th verse, rather the 18th verse. Watch it close.
READER: For ye are not come unto the mount…
DR. KINLEY: ye are not come unto the mount…Read on.
READER: that might be touched.
DR. KINLEY: …that might be touched: Mt. Zion, Mt. Sinai. … Where everything goes up there … carnal mind … those damnable spirits. You understand? They had this Passover down here, He’s the Passover, do you understand? Now look folks the natural which is just a type and shadow, the real thing is the … you understand? You looking at one another all you’re doing is looking at a type and a shadow … nothing but a type and a shadow. I want you to see now, how the heaven and earth will pass away … that is the reality. Now you see what I’m talking about? Now hear the Apostle Paul said, “For ye are not come unto the mount that might be touched.” Well why not?
READER: and that burned with fire…
DR. KINLEY: and that burned with fire… Mt. Sinai did that, ain’t that right? And that fire and the children of Israel in their eye sight it was a burning, ain’t that right, in their eyes. Moses come to the mount that could be touched and the top of that mount is allegorical to Jerusalem above, ain’t that right. You understand what I’m talking about? And the top and middle of it was liken unto the holy place, and the bottom of it was just like down in Egypt. The liver up in here … He has got to come up here into Mount Sinai, but it did fit the dimensions … That liver the largest organ in your physical body, ain’t that right. Yahshua the Messiah said I am the way, I’m the truth and I’m the liver, the life. Now He taketh away all that natural, these carnal ordinance that was given to them in the wilderness … Pick it up and read.
READER: …but you have come unto Mt. Zion and to the city of the living…
DR. KINLEY: and to the city of the living…
DR. KINLEY: Now wait a minute, why don’t you get this straight, listen folks … they done lied and some idiot is telling you there’s 144,000 in the earth plane, that’s going to heaven. You see what I mean? Ain’t none, we already arrived. You see? “But ye are come,” come to what?
READER: Unto Mount Zion…
DR. KINLEY: Unto Mount Zion…
READER: Unto the city of the living Elohim…
DR. KINLEY: Unto the city of the living Elohim…
READER: the heavenly Jerusalem…
DR. KINLEY: the heavenly, not the earthly, the heavenly Jerusalem.
READER: and to an innumerable…
DR. KINLEY: and to an innumerable, and to an innumerable company of angels…
READER: to the general assembly…
DR. KINLEY: to the general assembly…
READER: to the congregation of the firstborn…
DR. KINLEY: to the congregation of the firstborn…
READER: which are written in heaven…
DR. KINLEY: which arose or are written in heaven…
READER: and to Yahweh the judge…
DR. KINLEY: and to Yahweh the judge … Now you see? Now you and your little carnal mind you can’t see nothing, somebody shooting firecrackers over yonder at Israel, do you understand? Walking around talking about you are that number of the earthly class, sitting out on Mt. Zion. Jehovah Witness I’m talking about. Now the 14th chapter of Revelation.
READER: and I looked and behold a lamb…
DR. KINLEY: and I looked and behold a lamb…
READER: stood on the mount Zion…
DR. KINLEY: a lamb stood out there on Mr. Zion…
READER: and with him…
DR. KINLEY: and with him…
READER: and with him was 144,000…
DR. KINLEY: 144,000…
READER: having his name…
DR. KINLEY: having his name…
READER: and his fathers name…
DR. KINLEY: and his fathers name, Yahshua
READER: written in their foreheads…
DR. KINLEY: written in their foreheads. You understand? Read on.
READER: and I heard a voice…
DR. KINLEY: and I heard a voice…
READER: from heaven as the voice of many waters…
DR. KINLEY: as the voice of many waters…
READER: as the voice of great thunder…
DR. KINLEY: as the voice of great thunder…
READER: and I heard the voice…
DR. KINLEY: and I heard the voice…
READER: of harpers harping…
DR. KINLEY: of harpers harping…
READER: with their harps…
DR. KINLEY: with their harps…
READER: and they sung as it were…
DR. KINLEY: and they sung as it were…
READER: a new song…
DR. KINLEY: a new song…
READER: before the throne…
DR. KINLEY: before the throne…
READER: and before the four living creatures…
DR. KINLEY: and before the four living creatures…
READER: and the elders…
DR. KINLEY: and the elders…
READER: and no man could learn that song…
DR. KINLEY: and no man could learn that song…
READER: but the 144,000 which was redeemed on the earth.
DR. KINLEY: …which was redeemed on the earth … Now Yahshua fulfilled it with that last Passover … and they sung the song of victory … and they went on out of there and crossed over the brook Cedron … he entered into the Garden of Gesemene … ain’t that right. You see what I am talking about? … that’s 144,000 … Yahshua stood out there on Mt. Zion and … He circumcised them here, they don’t know how many were out there. Joshua through the River Jordan didn’t have that number on Him … through the veil into the Most Holy Place you get that straight. River Jordan than up here… You remember now. Now you repeat what you just said.
READER: and they sung as it were a new song before the throne…
DR. KINLEY: No, I don’t want that. I want how many, that they had to come. That’s what I’m talking about. The 12th chapter of Hebrews.
READER: For we are not come unto the mount that might be touched…
DR. KINLEY: Now look Dr. Harris you are a medical doctor. Roger is that right? LaSalle you can read can’t you, is there anybody in here that don’t have sense enough to know …? See ‘cause them Jews that were back there had the song of victory. Now Jehovah Witnesses what I am trying to show you are saying, are you one of the 144,000 in the earth plane? … Do you see? This is a … Jews here, and the Gentiles … That make up that great multitude that no man can number, can you see? And come in from …
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