Lecture given by Dr. Henry Clifford Kinley in 1971.
Transcriber’s Notes
Los Angeles, CA
Transcribed by Beverly Allen
Proofread by Syracuse , NY classes
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DR. KINLEY: Thank you ever so much. I know all of you enjoyed Ethel Griggs. We want the women around here, too, to know that we have some women, and we want the people to know, too, that this is a school not a church. What you keep on talking about it like that for? See you come to school to learn something you don’t know. Now you couldn’t learn nothing if the teacher didn’t know. And just gettin’ up here bragging and boasting around and having something to say and passing the collection plate, that won’t help it. But you know one thing, if you pay attention to the news and you look in your newspaper, (I been trying to tell you to do that for the longest), and you’ll find a group of young people and old people too, (I’m not talking about Hanson I’m talking about others, of course he’s included in one of these groups). But now here’s what I wanna point out to you; they are against organized religion. They are seeking to find something basic, something fundamental, something definite, something positive or concrete, gettin’ away from skepticism, agnosticism, infidelity, stupidity and colossal ignorance. We wanna know something, we demand that you tell us if you know it. Now you either do one thing or the other. You got a Holy Bible here. Now you say that it is the result of God’s purpose He’s revealed to man. All right now then look, if that be the case, then we want you to prove the Divine Authenticity, the unerring accuracy, and the infallibility of God and His eternal Purpose, and we don’t want none of your imaginations and none of your hallucinations, none of your “I presuming”. You get it? Did you notice the weather?
STUDENTS: Yes.
DR. KINLEY: Did I tell you anything about this?
STUDENTS: Yes.
DR. KINLEY: Do you remember when I told you?
STUDENTS: February 4, 1962 .
DR. KINLEY: Y’all know something about everything. Now what did I tell you was gonna happen February 4, 1962 , (I told you that in 60).
STUDENTS: The planets would line up.
DR. KINLEY: That’s right, planet conjunction. And these planets would be in, in conjunction or lined.
STUDENT: Lined up.
DR. KINLEY: conjunction or lined. . .
DR. WILLIAMS: That’s right, you sure told us Doc. You said it.
DR. KINLEY: I might get up here sometime and talk over somebody’s head, I don’t intend to, or they may not understand, and then they may go out and say “Well that man said.” But now I wanna show you about this.. I don’t wanna, I don’t wanna go to far on that cause I got something else in mind. But I wanna show you what I’m, just give you some idea of it, I just, just wanna touch it Freddy. Now we talk about this pattern all the time and we say it come from Yahweh, it was revealed to Moses. Yahshua the Messiah told the Jews, He said “Enter in at the straight gate.” Now you gettin’ up here and reading “Enter in at the straight gate,” and you don’t know nothing about what the gate is, and you don’t know a thing about it. “For broad is the way that leadeth unto destruction and narrow is the way that leadeth unto life,” see just making some good reading, you don’t have no knowledge of it, the straight gate.
Now here’s what I’m talking about. Now if you would line up these planets, and they would come into conjunction… Now you see if I knew how the structure of the universe was, and I knew why it was that way, if I understood it… So then now here’s these vessels in here – I don’t have time to go into a lot here, see we get this all the time and I wanna get to something else. But now we just say these nine vessels are encouched in this one here, or surrounded or in the tenth; ten is concrete. Now you got nine planets out there, you got nine systems in your physical body and it’s all embodied in Yahweh, and Yahweh is Spirit. He is the source and He is the substance, He’s the limits and the bounds. I heard her talking about a metamorphosis or a transmutation. Now somebody might not understand what them words mean. It means this: Just like you read there in the First Chapter of John, “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was God and the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us.” That’s a metamorphosis, transmutation, a change! Somebody said “Well I thought God didn’t change.” He doesn’t, the manifestation does but the principle remains the same, it always does. Well we say, (you have it there in the 17th Chapter of Acts), it says “We are the offspring,” look at it and read it, see if it’s in there.
READER For in Him we live. . .
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
READER and move. . .
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
READER and have our being. . .
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
READER as some of your own poets have said. . .
DR. KINLEY: As some of your own poets or prophets have said.
READER For we are also His offspring. . .
DR. KINLEY: We are also His offspring, that is to say, we sprung off from spirit or from God. Now we’re His offspring and we live in Him, and we move in Him, and we have our being. Then so far as matter is concerned, we ought to look something like Him! That’s the way He felt about it. Genesis 1:26 said He does, said He made man in His likeness and own image. You know the thing is so simple, there’s where you make all your blunders. That’s why you can’t learn nothing cause it’s standing right in under your nose all the time. And you go ’round looking for this, and all up in the sky and so forth and so on, why not try and find Him in you, kinda check up on yourself. You say that Jesus was baptized at the age 30, and walked around on the face of the earth teaching and Preaching 31/2 years. Is that, is that almost right?
STUDENTS: Right.
DR. KINLEY: And we seen that He was 33 years old, that was from birth to death. Now somebody say, “How you know, you wasn’t back there? Ain’t, ain’t no man never seen God at no time.” All right now here you got 33 vertebrates in your spinal column. And with those bones you’re able to walk erect. Isn’t that right? And your muscles, bones and muscles.. Now then you count them 33 vertebrate in your spinal column and that tells you how long He walked around here and that’s why you got them there. Somebody say “Well look, I don’t know about that.” Well now let me point out something to you. Whether you know it or not everybody in here has 33, don’t make no difference whether you’re male or female. Now of course if you just happen not to have one of ’em, then you’re excused from our argument. But you go and ask a orthopedic specialist, or here’s a medical doctor over here, ask him. Is that almost right doc?
DR. HARRIS: That’s correct! Right.
DR. KINLEY: You’re carrying the evidence right around your own self. You are what you’re looking for. Matter is spirit materialized, you’re the offspring, you come from that, and you must go back to where you come from. It’s wonderful.
Now look, the reason why I got up here tonight, I didn’t get to first base last Friday night. Casey struck out at the bat that time, I mean on what I wanted to get into to. I don’t mean to say that there was something wrong with what I tried to tell you, that’s not, that’s not the point. What I told you was all right, but I wanted to go back to the root and dig and come on down, that’s what I wanted to do. Now I had Dr. Traynham to read the 5th Chapter of Galatians. Now I don’t know whether you know it, or paid any attention to it or not, he read it Sunday. Now all of Christendom is doing just contrary to what he just read, and they all got the same kind of Bible, read one thing and do something else. They all got the same Bible… oh it’s a mess. It ain’t too much wrong with this Book, oh yes, I know there’s mistranslations and interpolations in that, in that book. Somebody say “You mean to tell me it’s some in the Holy Name Bible?” Sure, and all the rest of ’em. But I tell you one thing, we can pick ’em up, no trouble. Oh I tell you, it’s wonderful.
Now did you notice how Sister Ethel went along with that? You know how she went along with that? Now she knew exactly what she was talking about every step of the way, she had a profound knowledge of what she was talking about. She understood the structure, (let me put it your way that you’ve heard it all your life) of the Godhead, the structure of the universe. She understood the dispensations and the ages. She didn’t mix ’em all up and churn ’em all up like Jehovah’s Witnesses and a bunch of other idiots do. That’s right, that’s the reason why you can’t get nothing straight. Now I want you to read just a portion, no, I better get on down here and get this thing right. I ain’t gone be satisfied until I go back and get it, 12th Chapter of Revelations. I’m just not gonna be satisfied until I do what I wanna do! Now the word Revelations, or to reveal a thing… If I put my hand in my pocket and I show you what I had, or reveal to you what I had in my pocket, showed you what I had, now if I don’t have something in there I can’t show you nothing. Now look here, this chart here, now the way that it’s put together. Now you pay ‘tention to what I’m saying to you. See then this takes in God and the universe in it’s totality, don’t leave out nothing. Somebody say “Well I don’t know, I don’t agree, I don’t know about that.” Well I do, yeah I know about it. Ain’t never been nobody, (this work is 40 years old), ain’t never been nobody from no where, no college, nor no denomination, no sect, no cult, no doctor, no lawyer, ain’t been no body here that’s able to refute what’s on these charts. But I tell you what some of ’em have said, the smart boys, they have gotten up and said this many of ’em. Said “Now look, you can’t fix that,” they tell you the same thing about it I do. Now you notice this one, this is the old one back here. Now this is a bed sheet see and this is the first chart like this. We had a little small one, see about this big one time, and this is really the second, but this is the first one that we made. And this bed sheet with this paint on it is about 39 years old. Now you haven’t been down to Sears or the Broadway and got no sheets that lasted as long as this one, and we rolled it up and down, we rolled it up and down for many years. Now this is the first one, I didn’t have no others, I didn’t have the rest of ’em, we just tried to.. Now I was thinking within myself, here’s the way I thought it, now if I can show them from the Garden of Eden on down they’ll catch all the rest of it. If I show them what the pattern is and how to use it, why then they’ll catch it, they should I thought. Now come to find out they couldn’t, so then I had to go and make this one. So then I had this one and this one drawn together. Now this one shows from start to finish, don’t leave out nothing. Now then you got two things here, well it really isn’t two things, you’ve got two in business. Now we want you to know both of ’em. We want you to know Yahshua the Messiah manifested in the flesh and we also want you to know the devil or Judas. We want you to know what you call the Christ and the Anti-Christ. Did you notice that I told you that there was nine different vessels in here? Now the Apostle say there’s nine different gifts; the gift of prophecy, the gift of speaking in tongues, the gift of the interpreting, and so forth and so on. All right now, and one of ’em in particular I wanna mention before I, before I get off, and that’s discerning. That’s a gift, discerning.
Now in the First Chapter of John (now listen at what I’m talking about). Now Yahweh when He made the man, (listen close now), He gave him a sufficient amount of intelligence to comprehend His purpose and to understand His purpose. John puts it this way in the First Chapter of John there. He says “He enlighteneth every man that comes into the world,” now I just employ, and use different words. Now if He hadn’t did that, then this old anti-Christ or anti-Messiah come along, he fool you. But if he gives you that capacity of intelligence to use, AND YOU DON’T USE IT, that’s not His fault. And therefore since He gave it to you and you don’t use it, THEN HE IS JUSTIFIED IN SENDING YOU TO THE LAKE! He gave you that knowledge and intelligence and He sent somebody along… And where we’re having all our troubles, and our problems is no where else, we ain’t having problems no where else but discerning it’s one of them satanic, whether it’s divine spirit or satanic. Now the right spirit, that looks like it’s wrong, and the wrong spirit looks like it’s right, in other words you just got your wires crossed. Now the 12th Chapter of Revelations, I want you to read.
READER And the temple of Yahweh was opened in heaven, and there was seen in His temple the Ark of His Covenant. . .
DR. KINLEY: Now look, John is out on the Isle of Patmos, see he’s out on the Isle of Patmos. What for? It tells you in the First Chapter what he was out there for. And he was told, get this now, to… You know it’s so great, and I don’t like to tell you something without proving it. See if it don’t say that doc, so you can cut out calling John a liar. A lot of smart men have read Revelations, suppose to be smart and intelligent men, Christian leaders, and they won’t fool with the book of Revelations. You know why? He thinks, “Well, as smart as I am if I don’t know, then there ain’t nobody else don’t know,” and it’s the most simplest book there is in the Bible. Now here’s why I’m saying this to you. Moses wrote the first five books, and the prophets wrote the prophecy, Yahshua the Messiah come and fulfilled what they wrote. Now then you take a man, John has got to go live, can’t kill him and it ain’t a thing you can do about it, and he’s got to live to be out on the Isle of Patmos in AD 96 to verify and to confirm this that’s back here. And therefore you say Moses wrote, now John was told, you got it right there in the first chapter. . .
READER Revelations 1:19
DR. KINLEY: Revelations 1:19, listen. . .
READER Write the things which thou hast seen. . .
DR. KINLEY: Now you write the thing which you see!
READER and the things which are. . .
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
READER and the things which shall be here after. . .
DR. KINLEY: And the things which shall be here after. Said write it! He’s out there to write. And then He said to write what you see and hear. Is that a fact? Now here he is seeing a vision out here, just like I told you I had one, and I can’t tell you nothing about it. And here I come, I’m, I’m all twisted up with what Moses said, and I’m all twisted up with what John said, and I got my carnal mind in it. NOW IF THE VISION THAT I HAD IS ANY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT MOSES AND JOHN HAD IT AIN’T WORTH A TINKER’S DAMN! No, I didn’t mean to soft petal it, I meant just what I said. It’s a destruction to you to believe my lies. But I wanna tell you what the problem is, and the reason why you can’t see my stuff. Now you can go on back, I just wanted, I just want to let you know that Moses was writing, and John was writing what he saw and heard. All right. Now, the 12th Chapter of Revelations.
READER And the temple of Yahweh was opened in heaven. . .
DR. KINLEY: Now he’s seeing this in a vision. He said the temple of Yahweh was opened in heaven. He’s seeing a vision. Read on.
READER and there was seen in His temple the Ark of His Covenant…
DR. KINLEY: And there was seen in His temple the Ark of the Covenant. Now wait a minute. Now just reading that, and you don’t know nothing about the Ark of the Covenant, that ain’t gonna help you buster. This is the Ark of the Covenant. The dimensions and all is right down there in Exodus. You just getting up here reading don’t mean nothing. All right.
READER And there were lightnings and . . .
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
READER and voices. . .
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
READER and thunderings. . .
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
READER and an earthquake. . .
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
READER and great hail. . .
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
READER And there appeared a great wonder in heaven. . .
DR. KINLEY: Listen, and there appeared a great wonder in heaven. Is that what it says? A woman. . .
READER clothed with the sun. . .
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
READER and the moon under her feet. . .
DR. KINLEY: And the moon under her feet. Christendom ain’t never got that thing straight. Now look, I’ll tell you why. Now here’s Adam back here, he’s the son. Moses is up here in this, seeing this vision up here in the top of this mountain in the cloud. Just like this is a mountain or an island surrounded… This is a mountain in the water, and he’s looking right back at it. He said “There appeared a wonder in heaven.” And he has to be… Now look now catch it, catch it. John is on the Isle of Patmos which is sur.., an Island is a land surrounded by water. Now then Moses in his description, in the beginning of his, they just both got to match. In other words, like I told you about that ———, of balancing ——- the liabilities and assets, and if you make a mistake there, it’s not gonna balance. So now we can’t make no mistakes with this. So now here, John is seeing this woman clothed with the sun. Is that what you just read?
READER Right.
DR. KINLEY: He’s looking right in this man. The woman is right in that man. The 5th Chapter of Genesis said, “Yahweh caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam.” Said “It’s not good for man to be alone; caused a deep sleep to fall upon him.” Now we got all that upon the wall there. And He reached within the side of Adam and He took that rib, and He also took the womb. The man had both of ’em, in other words, he was male and female united into one body. Somebody say “I don’t believe that.” All right now when we go back and look at the Name, Yah is masculine, Weh is feminine, Elohim is plural. Say fellow, we know what we talking about every step of the way! He caused that deep sleep to fall on that man and took that, that woman out of him. Why He could have reached down in the mud and made a woman just as well as He could a man, but He don’t do it that way. Why? Because He’s trying to manifest Himself in earth, so therefore He’s masculine and feminine. So He’s gone make a man and He’s gonna make him, anthropomorphodite , and the woman right in him. And then He’s gone cause a deep sleep to fall upon the man and take the woman out. And this vision he’s having is up, on up in the spirit or in the heavenly realm. He said it’s a wonderful thing, a wonder. There appeared a wonder, a woman clothed, (a woman is clothed with the sun), that is to say she’s in him. Now that’s the sun, the woman is clothed with the sun. Now you got a S-o-n and you got a S-u-n, and then the moon is under her feet and a crown of stars above her head. Oh boy, that boy was looking in there, wasn’t he? That boy sure was looking in. All right read on
READER and she being with child, cried. . .
DR. KINLEY: And she… Now look, here’s the man, he’s pregnant with the woman, and the woman is in the man and she’s pregnant, and the moon under her feet. The moon rules the night. I’ve got something folks. I got something and I’m gone bring it out too. I wanted to do it the other night but I’m gonna take the short cut tonight. I’m gonna show you what’s the matter, why you can’t learn nothing. All right read on.
READER travailing in birth and pained to be delivered. . .
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
READER And there appeared another wonder in heaven. . .
DR. KINLEY: And now, and there appeared another, now here come up another wonder!
READER behold a great red dragon. . .
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
READER having seven heads and ten horns. . .
DR. KINLEY: Having seven heads. Say listen, don’t you know there’s seven days in a week? There’s seven months in a monthly cycle, there’s seven years in the cycle of years, there’s seven weeks in a cycle of weeks, and seven millenniums in a cycle of millenniums, and it’s seven ages in a cycle of ages, and we know what’s going on in every one of ’em. Now here’s another wonder. All right read on
READER The great red dragon had seven heads. . .
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
READER ten horns. . .
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
READER and a crown upon his head. . .
DR. KINLEY: um hum
READER And his tail drew the third part of the stars from heaven. . .
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
READER and did cast them to the earth. . .
DR. KINLEY: And did cast them to the earth. I’ll tell you this one real quick because it’s almost off on a tangent, and I couldn’t reach it to save my life tonight, but I’ll just give you a little of it. When Joshua went into Palestine in the conquest of Caanan’s land, (you remember Ishmael had twelve sons too, just like Jacob had twelve sons and they were the Canaanites, and you call them Jeshubites, and Tishubites and Moabites and so forth and so on. Now they were in that land, they had never been out of it. They were born there. And that’s part of where you’re getting your squabble right now, cause they can’t settled over there in that land. So now here’s what I wanna show you now. When Joshua went in there, in the conquest of Palestine or Caanan’s land, He drove out those Canaanites but He left 8 of the 12; left 8 of the 12 tribes in there. He couldn’t put ’em out, and they had an inheritance in there too. Now if you went on back into heaven now and compare that, (qualifying, which is in the type, in the type), and then it’s 12 of ’em there, and He drove out and left 8, and you’ll find that in the Judges, left 8 Nations in there. Then you look back over here in Revelations where you just seen where Satan is cast out of heaven and his tail drew the third part of the stars from heaven, (3×8 is almost 24). Did you get that one? Is it anybody didn’t get it? That’s a whole lot of ’em, ain’t it? Now those are satanic spirits that’s cast out. And this old dragon, you gone read that old serpent, now you gone, you gone find out who he is. I don’t have to tell you about that. Read.
READER And the dragon stood before the woman. . .
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
READER which was ready to be delivered. . .
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
READER for to devour her child as soon as it was born. . .
DR. KINLEY: Now did you ever think about Mary’s pregnancy and how Herod tried to destroy her. It’s all tied in there but I just ain’t got time to go into all that. All right read.
READER Skip on down. . .
DR. KINLEY: Yeah skip on down.
READER And there was a war in heaven. . .
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
READER Michael and his. . .
DR. KINLEY: Now wait a minute! Hold it! Now if there’s a war in heaven, now there’s no way for you to get way up in the sky as you’ve got… Some of you got heaven way up in the sky of course it ain’t, it ain’t like that. Now if there’s a war up there in heaven, now how you gonna get it fixed if you got a war down here on earth? All right read on.
READER Michael and his angels fought against the dragon. . .
DR. KINLEY: Michael and his angels fought and the dragon.
READER and the dragon fought and his angels. . .
DR. KINLEY: All right.
READER and prevailed not. . .
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
READER and neither was their place found anymore in heaven. . .
DR. KINLEY: And neither was their place found anymore in heaven. Now wait a minute, now Jehovah Witnesses said over here in the First Chapter of Job I believe it is, that Satan run backward and forwards in heaven. Yeah that’s it, you know, he run backward and forwards in heaven . Did you, did you get that statement?
STUDENT: And neither was their place found any more. Their place wasn’t found any more.
DR. KINLEY: Look in some books… We’re preaching the gospel. All right read.
READER and the great dragon was cast out. . .
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
READER that old serpent. . .
DR. KINLEY: Wait a minute! Look up here, that old serpent. Now look doc, uh, someone else, let him hold his place there but somebody else read it.
ROGER: Now the serpent was. . .
DR. KINLEY: I didn’t say nothing to you, I didn’t tell you where to read.
AUDIENCE: Laughter.
DR. KINLEY: Ha! Ha! See these people in this class they are sharp. See I didn’t, I didn’t… Did you hear me say anything to him? I said read, and he got it right away. Well go on read it.
ROGER: 3rd Chapter of Genesis.
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
ROGER: Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field.
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
READER which Yahweh Elohim had made.
DR. KINLEY: Which Yahweh Elohim… Now listen, let me plug this one in to this one over here. Now that old serpent which was cast out of heaven, he was more subtle than any of the beasts, or the natural ones on earth that Yahweh had made. Satanic spirit, you couldn’t see him only in a vision. Now he approached the woman back there in the Garden of Eden. Now you got what old serpent we’re talking about? Now John is seeing him cast out, sees him stand before the woman to devour her child as soon as it’s born. And all you got, just have but repetitions all the way down. All right now what happened Roger?
ROGER: And he said unto the woman. . .
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
ROGER: hath Elohim said. . .
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
ROGER: Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden. . .
DR. KINLEY: Now listen he’s asking that woman, (she heard what Yahweh said to him), he heard it, now he’s asking her if that’s what He said. All right read.
ROGER: And the woman said unto the serpent. . .
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
ROGER: we may eat of the fruit of the trees. . .
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
ROGER: But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden…
DR. KINLEY: um hum
ROGER: Elohim hath said ye shall not eat of it.
DR. KINLEY: um hum
ROGER: neither shall ye touch it lest ye die. . .
DR. KINLEY: Lest ye die. Now you mustn’t eat of that tree in the midst of the garden lest ye die. The woman’s telling him what, (and he heard, he knows what Yahweh said). Just like I tell you, any Devil can come along and read this Bible, maybe beat you reading it, but that don’t mean he knows anything about it. But now Satan heard what Yahweh said back there in that garden. All right read.
ROGER: and the serpent said unto the woman. . .
DR. KINLEY: And now this is what the serpent said unto the woman, (she’d told him now), and now the serpent he said unto the woman. . .
ROGER: No death will you die. . .
DR. KINLEY: “No, no death will you die, or you shall not die.” Now he just called Yahweh a liar. Now Yahweh said don’t touch it, don’t eat of it, don’t bother it, don’t touch it, don’t eat of it, lest ye die. The devil said, “You won’t surely die.” All right, now I want you to get the 16th Chapter of Matthew.
READER: From that time forward. . .
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
READER: begin Yahshua to show unto His disciples. . .
DR. KINLEY: Now here He is with His disciples, now He’s got to fulfill all this that’s back here in the scriptures in the law and the prophets. Pay ‘tention now. He’s got to fulfill it, BECAUSE ADAM DID EAT OF THE FRUIT OF THE TREE, AND HE DID DIE. Satan said “No death will you die.” AND LOOK, I MEAN HE DIED INSTANTANEOUSLY. Somebody say “Well how in the world he live 930 years then, and he had some sons and daughters too?” Then somebody run up here and say “Where did Cain get his wife?” I tell you it’s terrible ain’t it? Now from that time forward, read on.
READER: begin Yahshua to show unto His disciples. . .
DR. KINLEY: Now Yahshua He’s gonna have to fulfill all of this. ADAM DIED, this one back there, and they sinned in the Garden. NOW HE’S GONNA HAVE TO DIE TO RESTORE THIS ONE BACK! So from that time forward He begin to show unto His disciples in order to fulfill this back here in the scriptures, and make the devil out of a lie. From that time forward He begin to show His disciples. . .
READER: How that He must go into Jerusalem . . .
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
READER: and suffer many things of the elders, and chief priest. . .
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
READER: of the Scribes. . .
DR. KINLEY: Of the Scribes and Pharisees. Read on.
READER: and be raised again the third day. . .
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
READER: Then Peter took Him. . .
DR. KINLEY: Now here you are. See this man in whom you say that Christ didn’t have no better sense than to build His church on… That’s what you said, at least that’s what the Catholic told me. So this man, Peter, now it’s right in the same, ( 16:18 too, is right where it is). Now, from that time forward He’s gonna have to fulfill it. He begin to show it to His disciples that’s what He was gonna have to do. And He took them and He begin tell ’em about how He must go up to Jerusalem , and how He must suffer and die, and so forth and so on. And then Pete said… Read on.
READER: Then Peter took Him and begin to rebuke Him. . .
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
READER: Be it far from thee Rabbi. . .
DR. KINLEY: Wait a minute, you still got your finger on the 3rd Chapter of Genesis?
ROGER: um hum
DR. KINLEY: Then Peter did what?
READER: Begin to rebuke Him saying, be it far from thee Rabbi. . .
DR. KINLEY: um hum
READER: This shall not be unto Thee. . .
DR. KINLEY: um hum. Read on, listen.
READER: Then He turned and said unto Peter. . .
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
READER: get thee behind me Satan
DR. KINLEY: Uh-oh, see that old Devil was cast out of heaven, went on down through the Garden of Eden, and come on down through the dispensations and ages. You see him now? Employed the self same words. Put ’em together both of ’em.
ROGER: And the Serpent said unto the woman . . .
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
ROGER: no death will you die.
READER: Then Peter took Him and begin to rebuke Him saying. . .
DR. KINLEY: That’s right.
READER: this shall no be unto Thee. . .
DR. KINLEY: You won’t, you won’t die. Well what do you think that was in Pete? You ought to be able to make that one out. You see through what I’m talking about? Which means He ain’t built no church on no flesh and blood, you got’a do something better than that. And this Rock that He was talking about, that wasn’t Peter, the book said it wasn’t too. Yes sir, said that Rock, (10th Chapter of First Corinthians), that Rock that followed them was the Messiah. And He said upon This Rock… Now you’re trying to tell me that it’s upon Peter or upon that rock. Same thing in John 2:19, He said destroy this temple and I’ll build it again in three days. They said “Our Father was forty and six years in building this temple, now how are you going to rear it up again in three days?” But John expounded or explained, “but this spake He of the temple of His body.” Now He was talking about destroy This Temple, they thought He was talking about that temple. He said upon This Rock, and they said that rock! Yahweh told him not to eat and not to touch — Is that what you read? I wanna know is that what you read!
READER: Right. Right.
DR. KINLEY: Now He fulfilled it. Now we wanna go down in Colossians 2nd Chapter. Now I want these same words back, the apostle. And I wanna show you the same devil standing up there in the pulpit. 2nd Chapter of Colossians, said “Let no man beguile you”. . .
READER: Let no man beguile you. . .
DR. KINLEY: Where, where you reading?
READER: 2:18
DR. KINLEY: 2:18 . Now I wanna I wanna know where he’s reading at. All right.
READER: Let no man beguile you. . .
DR. KINLEY: Now listen, listen Williams don’t you let no man beguile you. . .
READER: of your reward
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
READER: in a voluntary humility
DR. KINLEY: In a voluntary humility. “Look folks, I tell you , will ya’ll come to Christ? ” Lying deceitful bastard. Well, what’d you say that for? A bastard, 12th Chapter of Hebrews tells you what it is. Now if you can’t be chastised… Yahweh chasteneth every son whom He receiveth, but if you be without chastisement, then you’re a bastard. Now you can’t take this Book and chastise nobody from it. Why? Cause he knows, he thinks he knows all about it. Now the point that I’m pointing out now and what we’re talking about now. Let no man beguile you of your reward. Read.
READER: in a voluntary humility. . .
DR. KINLEY: In voluntary, be humble, just so humble (“The precious blood of Jesus, transubstantiation,)” through his prayer he’s transubstantiating, creating Christ, right before your eyes, one of them Jannes and Jambres stunts. And he’s telling you he’s transubstantiating it into the actual body and blood of Yahshua the Messiah through his prayer. Protestant he says, no, consubstatiation. He says it a type and a shadow, both of ’em wrong. Now let’s see whether that’s what He actually did. I don’t have time to go into it. In the 6th Chapter of St. John, He said to them in the synagogue at Capernaum , (listen at what I’m saying now cause we gone get right back on this), said “Unless you eat of my flesh and drink of my blood you shall have no life in you. They said this is a hard saying, who can hear it? how can this man give us His flesh to eat?” Are you talking about Cannibalism? And many of His disciples turned and went away from Him. And He looked at the twelve, He said “Will you go also?” And they said “We don’t have no where to go seeing you have the words of Eternal Life.” He explained to ’em, He explained to ’em; what did He say?
STUDENTS: The flesh prof. . .
DR. KINLEY: The flesh profiteth nothing! Now if you ate Him up, I mean ate His body up, and it wouldn’t help ’em a bit. Said “The flesh profiteth nothing, the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit and they are life.” When we’re up here speaking, the Holy Spirit speaking through us, we’re feeding you of that bread. That’s spirit, that’s life! Naw, you’re carnal minded, an
you let the Devil stand up here and tell you he’s creating God in the communion. Now when He got down to it that night in the 26th Chapter of Matthew, He said “This is my body,” they understood then cause He done explained it to ’em, wasn’t no argument then. Now here comes the devil, we got the same thing. You remember now, don’t you lose, now don’t you lose the continuity of thought. Now He told that man back there in the Garden of Eden (here he is back here and it’s over there on the, it’s down there on the —–), He told that man don’t eat, If you do you’ll surely die! The devil says “No death will you die.” Now that was natural food to sustain his physical body. He had a physical body, the trees were put out there for him to eat physical food to sustain and nourish his physical body. And that body that he had is a physical, this one here is an incorporeal, and you don’t feed that one on nothing like that. And if we preach to you the concept, the comprehension, the understanding, the formation, the profound knowledge, the understanding, the intelligence, the wisdom, and knowledge, of course the natural and the spiritual is revealed, and we have sense enough to divide between ’em in the dispensations and ages. And no bastard’s gone come along and tell me that this is the body and blood of Christ.., done stood up here and created Christ. See that’s, that’s the devil, the Protestant’s do it to. All right now Paul said.. Now let’s get on down, I don’t have but a few minutes.
READER: intruding into those things which he has not seen. . .
DR. KINLEY: Intruding into those things which he has not seen, he ain’t understood a thing about it. How ’bout it, read on.
READER: vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind. . .
DR. KINLEY: Vainly puffed up in his carnal mind! He don’t have no Spiritual Mind! And when you speak of a carnal mind all he can see is natural things! Read on.
READER: and not holding the head. . .
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
READER: from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministered and knit together . . .
DR. KINLEY: That’s right.
READER: increaseth with the increase of Elohim.
DR. KINLEY: All right read on.
READER: Wherefore. . .
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
READER: if ye be dead with the Messiah. . .
DR. KINLEY: Wherefore, if you be dead with Him. . .
READER: from the rudiments of the world. . .
DR. KINLEY: uh hum
READER: why as though living in the world
DR. KINLEY: Now look’a here, what are you doing that for? Now wait, just a minute, look up here at me Williams! See He come in and fulfilled. All this was natural, just natural carnal ordinance, and just as natural as it was back here in the Garden of Eden. And that’s what Sis told you there a while ago, educated you with the natural, and so it would point to the spiritual. Now here He comes in as a natural man, and He was nailed to the cross, that cast it out. Now we’re no more in the generations of Adam, that’s the 63rd and last. Somebody say “Well I don’t believe it.” Then somebody count the nerves as they go on down, you don’t have but sixty-three, you don’t have no more. Wait just a minute, now they nailed it to the cross, and then over in this dispensation we’re giving you the spiritual thing that this pointed to, the natural pointed to. But you couldn’t come over, and you’re hanging on out there in the Baptist, and Methodist and the Roman Catholics and everything. Said “Jesus said for us to do this. Jesus said as often as we eat this bread and drink of this cup we do show forth His death and suffering until He come.” Ain’t that what they said? He didn’t say that to you, that was said under the dispensation of the law before He died, and to the Jews only. And He told ’em that’s the last time I’m gonna eat it with you. Here’s how God makes a fool out of the devil. Now then after that, the death, burial, and resurrection, went right back up there to ’em. Thomas wasn’t there (I don’t have time to go into all of it), said “You do this until I come again.” He’s right back up in there, and now the devil’s trying to make on like He’s still dead. And if He’s still dead, your faith is vain and you’re yet in your sins. You don’t know how to divide the difference
between these dispensations. See now we’re catching this sly old devil that’s cast out of heaven, remember he’s the serpent and he’s the anti-christ. Yahweh says “You’ll die,” he says “No you won’t.” All right read on doc.
READER: Touch not. . .
DR. KINLEY: Now wait a minute! Now read your verse over there in Genesis what He told that woman not to do, in there. . .
ROGER: And the woman said unto the serpent,
DR. KINLEY: um hum
ROGER: we may eat of the trees of the fruit of the garden, but of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden,
DR. KINLEY: um hum
ROGER: Elohim hath said ye shall not eat of it neither shall ye touch it lest. . .
DR. KINLEY: That’s right, that’s natural, and that was a tree. Now the tree is pleasant to the eyes just like all the rest of ’em. Now here’s what’s wrong. He told him not to touch it, and then told him if he did touch it he’d die. The devil say, “You won’t die.” Now here He’s move this out of the way, this natural out of the way. I’m gone bring it back, I’m gone show it to you. If you’d look around you’d see what I’m talking about. Now here he is up here saying “Jesus said,” (Matthew 26), Jesus said as often as you eat. Paul says they’re nailed to the cross, the carnal ordinances. He said “Don’t touch it, don’t eat it, if you do you’ll perish.” He’s up here calling himself your pastor saying, “Take, eat.” Where do you get the authority? Said “Jesus said so.” Where do you find that at? “Matthew 26:26” The natural is done been nailed to the cross. Now we’re walking not in this physical man Adam back here, but in the Adam, the First Adam. Now listen, all these things, these carnal ordinances.. And say listen, did you ever stop to just think just for a few minutes, now if you gone waste all your time every Sunday, or every month, or every year and you don’t eat nothing but the Lord Supper, say boy when you gone get around to the place where you eat the feast of Pentecost? When you gone get around to place when you eat the feast of
tabernacles? When you gone eat the feast of unleavened bread? The devil ain’t doing nothing else… That’s what’s wrong out there every where, that’s exactly what’s wrong out there. A carnal mind and a Satanic spirit, incarnated in a physical body, running ’round here telling you Jesus said for us to take and eat. He said, “Don’t touch, don’t taste, don’t handle, if you do you’ll die.” The devil says “Naw, He said for us to do it, we’ll keep all of it. Give me two real quick ones, 3rd Chapter of Exodus, “I will be,” is what I’m after. I’m after this “Ayah-Asher-Ayah.” . .
READER: And Elohim said. . .
DR. KINLEY: Now wait a minute, so we don’t, so, so, they, they’re putting these things down. Where you’re reading at? 3rd Chapter of Exodus. . .
READER: 3:14
DR. KINLEY: Exodus 3:14. Now since you’re writing, write this down, Isaiah 14:14. Now you got it down on the paper so now look, look up at me. And she’ll read, and you’ll know —–. Now what you got?
READER: And Elohim said unto Moses. . .
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
READER: Ayah-Asher-Ayah. . .
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
READER: And He said. . .
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
READER: thus shall thou say unto the children of Israel . . .
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
READER: I will be. . .
DR. KINLEY: Listen, I will be
READER: hath sent me unto you. . .
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats). Read on.
READER: And Elohim said. . .
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
READER: moreover unto Moses. . .
DR. KINLEY: uh huh
READER: thus shall thou say unto the children of Israel ,
DR. KINLEY: Um hum
READER: Yahweh the Elohim of your fathers, the Elohim of Abraham, the Elohim of Isaac, and the Elohim of Jacob hath sent me unto you, this…
DR. KINLEY: Now let’s cut it up real short cause I know the time is just about expired. Now He said I will be hath sent me, Ayah Asher Ayah. You will be what? Huh? You got it down there.
READER: I will be what I will to be.
DR. KINLEY: I , w ell that’s what, that’s that’s what I wanted to hear. Now this is Yahweh talking, “I will be what I will to be.” Remember we got, we got both of these boys together now. See He just be whatever He wills to be
READER: I will ascend above the heights of the cloud. . .
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
READER: I will be like the Most High. . .
DR. KINLEY: I will be like Him, he wanna be like.. Confoundit. Yahweh says “I’ll be what I will to be,” Devil says “I’m gone be like Him.” Everything that… now that’s them two boys I’m telling you about all the time, and this deception is going on all the time, and why these people are so divided up, you see, understand, they just can’t discern that. Said “I will be what I will to be.” [Glitch in Tape]. . . “I will be like the Most High.” Leviticus 16:2, and hold the place and finish, then we’ll finish reading. [ Bell Rings]
READER: And Yahweh said unto Moses. . .
DR. KINLEY: And uh, Leviticus 16:2, you got that down? All right now here’s, I wanna, I wanna pin point it now. See Yahweh said unto Moses. (I heard the bell)
READER: Speak unto Aaron thy brother. . .
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
READER: that he come not at all times into the Holy Place . . .
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
READER: within the veil. . .
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
READER: before the Mercy Seat. . .
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
READER: which is upon the Ark . . .
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
READER: that he die not. . .
DR. KINLEY: That he die not! See we keep on telling you about that dying business. All right read.
READER: For I will appear in the cloud. . .
DR. KINLEY: Listen! I will appear in the cloud above the Mercy Seat! Now we got Him pin-pointed. Now here’s what I mean pin-pointed, See this is a, this is what we’re talking about. You tell your brother, Aaron, don’t come in here in this second veil (which is typical of going into heaven), because I will dwell above in the cloud. Now I’m pin-pointing it. Said “I will appear in the cloud.” Now here you’re reading about Satan. All right.
READER: I will ascend above the heights above the cloud. . .
DR. KINLEY: Now you see that idiot, now Yahweh said “I will appear in the cloud.” Satan says “I ain’t gone be satisfied with that, I’m going on up above that.” See he’s a liar any way you make him. And look, Yahweh made him slick like that too. He went on up above the cloud. Is that what he said? All right read on.
READER: I will be like the Most High . . .
DR. KINLEY: I will be LIKE! the Most High. I’m in a hurry the bells rung.
READER: Yet thou shall be brought down to the grave. . .
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
READER: to the sides of the pit. . .
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
READER: They that. . .
DR. KINLEY: Now wait a minute! That’s enough. Now 2nd Chapter of 2nd Thessalonians.
READER: Let no man deceive you by any means. . .
DR. KINLEY: Now look, don’t let no man deceive you by any means. But look, I wanna give you this picture. See this here? See this Ark of the Covenant, it’s got some rings running through it. Now the reason why I’m telling you this is because you can look right on the silver screen and see that old bastard sitting up there. Now they wasn’t suppose to touch that, if you put your hand on that Ark , you’ll fall dead. And to show you, there’s Cherubims of Glory on each side of it, and Yahweh’s dwelling between the wings of the Cherubims. And there the priest they carried that Ark on their shoulders, going behind those wings, and Yahweh dwelled in the Cloud. Now here comes along that old hypocritical bastard over yonder in the Vatican , riding on the sedia gestatoria, somebody carrying him around and he’s as ignorant as everybody else. Yeah that old bastard and I’m angry with him too. Now what he’s done, you seen what he said there in Isaiah, said “I’ll ascend above the cloud!” Now Paul’s after him now.
READER: Let no man deceive you by any means. . .
DR. KINLEY: Don’ t let nobody deceive you by any means
READER: for that day shall not come. . .
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
READER: except there come a falling away first. . .
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
READER: and that man of sin. . .
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
READER: be revealed. . .
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
READER: the son of perdition. . .
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
READER: who opposeth. . .
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
READER: and exalteth himself. . .
DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)
READER: above all that is called. . .
DR. KINLEY: Now you read about he’s gonna go way up above the cloud, and you, you understand, that’s where Paul’s getting this stuff at he’s writing about! Rip are you following?
STUDENT: Yes sir.
DR. KINLEY: Now they don’t want me to saying nothing, they want to shoot me. They call me a heretic. And every one of our Baptist Brethren, and our Methodist brethren, and our Roman Catholic brethren, I’m the worst fellow there is around. You don’t find nobody agreeing with me. How you gone agree with me, you and your little carnal mind? And then you out there playing church and kicking up your heels in some building down here on the corner. You see what I’m talking about? [Dr. Kinley walks off of the floor]
AUDIENCE: Applause.
