Lecture given by Dr. Kinley in 1974.
AUDIO CASSETTE RECORDING RECEIVED FROM LAMAR GREER (#25B)
2 90 MINUTE AUDIO CASSETTES
CATALOG#: 74 KP
TAPE 1 TRANSCRIBER: JESSIE HUNLEY
TAPE 2 TRANSCRIBER: MICHAEL ROTHSTEIN
TAPE 1, FIRST PROOFREADING: MARVIN KIMMIE
TAPE 1, SECOND PROOFREADING: SUSAN AMEIGH
TAPE 1 AND 2 THIRD PROOFREADING: GERRY ROTHSTEIN
TAPE 1, FOURTH PROOFREADING: MICHAEL ROTHSTEIN
FIFTH PROOFREADING: INTERNATIONAL PUBLIC RELATIONS COMMITTEE
APPROVED BY THE INTERNATIONAL PUBLIC RELATIONS COMMITTEE: 1997
TRANSCRIBER’S NOTES
1. … INDICATES THAT DR. KINLEY ENDED A WORD OR A SENTENCE WITHOUT VERBALLY COMPLETING IT.
2. AUDIENCE COMMENTS ARE INCLUDED ONLY IF MORE THAN ONE PERSON RESPONDED OR IF DR. KINLEY WAS SPEAKING DIRECTLY TO A SPECIFIC PERSON.
3. UNLESS EMPHASIZED BY DR. KINLEY PAUSE WORDS HAVE BEEN LEFT OUT OF THE TRANSCRIPT FOR THE SAKE OF EASE IN READABILITY AND COMPREHENSION (AH, SEE, YOU SEE, YOU SEE WHAT I MEAN, YOU FOLLOW, IS THAT RIGHT.)
4. ____ INDICATES AN INAUDIBLE WORD OR SYLLABLE.
5. WORDS IN CAPITAL LETTERS ARE COMMENTS OF THE TRANSCRIBER.
(TAPE 1, SIDE 1)
DR. KINLEY: … You had better be prepared, cause it you don’t, why then there’s where you make a fool out of yourself.
Now I thought that tonight we’d get down on some things that we ought to know something about where you are in the purpose of Yahweh as to His purpose and plan in the ages. Well where. Now the reason for me talking like that is this, first of all you don’t hear in Roman Catholicism and Protestantism and Judaism, you do not hear about the dispensations and ages. There’s no way under the sun for you to understand the purpose of Yahweh without a profound knowledge of the dispensations and ages. You don’t know anything at all about it.
And there’s another important thing too, that Ambassador College just right recently learned, after the accumulation of many millions of dollars, and deceiving many millions of people all over the world. They did not know, and for the most part, Christendoom does not know tonight, this night, that Yahshua the Messiah was back here with Moses. They just, they don’t know that. Now, before we go any further we wanna start right now and let you find out about that. We’re not gonna read no whole lotta scriptures about it the ones you ought to be sufficient. The 1Oth chapter of I Corinthians. Now that’s where they went to, to let you know that Yahshua, that I’m talking about Ambassador College went to let you know that Yahshua the Messiah was back… Now they been reading it, all of these many years just like they have all the rest of the scriptures, and yet and still they had no knowledge of it. Alright read the 10th chapter, the first, begin with the first verse.
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: Moreover brethren
DR. KINLEY: Now there is some more on top of this: moreover. Now moreover is a conjunction. And that’s something else we need to know something about too: that this Bible was not originally written in chapters and verses. And often times the subject and the predicate is divided by a chapter and a verse, as is the case where you’re reading right here now. Now you have to probably go back up in the next chapter to find out what the, what precedes that that joins this thought to moreover brethren.
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: Moreover brethren I would not that you should be ignorant…
DR. KINLEY: Now, as Paul says, 1, I don’t want you to be ignorant. Now look, let’s face it, let’s face it now. He said now, moreover brethren I would not that you should be ignorant. I was sitting in Springfield, Ohio. Dr. Hobbs called me on the phone. I was at one of the brethren’s house there. And he said, ‘have you got your channel so and so on the TV?’ I said, ‘yes, we got it here.’ He said, ‘Ted Garner Armstrong is teaching there and this is what he said. He said that his father did not know, many things even his father didn’t know and neither did he.’ For example, then he talked about the 15th chapter of 1st Corinthians, I mean this 1Oth chapter of first Corinthians, that Yahshua the Messiah was back there with the Children of Israel, with Moses. Said he, they didn’t know that. Now old man Armstrong, Herbert Armstrong claims to be the man that Yahweh sent or God has sent in the world in this last day to straighten the people out and to prepare them for the establishment and setting up of the Kingdom of Yahweh on earth. And he didn’t know that. Now that’s bad. Very bad. Now, and I don’t want you to think now, that he’s the only one in Christendoom that don’t know, cause that would be a bad error. The rest of ’em don’t know either. Now, read on Dr. Harris.
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: Moreover brethren, I would not that you should be ignorant.
DR. KINLEY: Now, he said he didn’t want them to be to be ignorant of that, that Yahshua the Messiah that later come through the loins of a woman, born of the woman, that He was back there with Moses. That’s something to think about. And I’d like to tell you this while we’re on that story. He was the one that informed Moses and the prophets that He would be through the loins of the woman. He was the one that informed them. That’s where they got their information from. Now if you insist I’ll read it. Alright read on Dr Harris.
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: Moreover brethren, I would not that you should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud
DR. KINLEY: Now, how all of our fathers were under the cloud. Alright, read.
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: and all passed through the sea
DR. KINLEY: and all passed through the sea
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: and were all baptized unto Moses
DR. KINLEY: and were all baptized unto Moses
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: in the cloud and in the sea
DR. KINLEY: in the cloud and in the sea
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: and did all eat the same spiritual food
DR. KINLEY: and did all eat the same spiritual food
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: and did all drink the same spiritual drink
DR. KINLEY: and did all drink the same spiritual drink
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: for they drank of that spiritual Rock
DR. KINLEY: for they drank of that spiritual Rock
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: that went with them
DR. KINLEY: Now hold it right there. And look at your King James Version. I want it read.
DAVID ROSEN: And did all drink the same spiritual drink. For they drank of that spiritual rock that followed them.
DR. KINLEY: Now that’s stupid.
STUDENT BODY: Right.
DR. KINLEY: Just plum down right stupid. And what we might say, a direct contradiction, even for common sense. Now let me tell you what I’m talking about. Now when Yahshua the Messiah come along did He say to the disciples, ‘let me follow you.’
STUDENT BODY: No. No.
DR. KINLEY: It says there in the King James Version, that Rock that followed them. Now what do you think He’d look like going along behind them. He’s the Savior of the world and He’s going along following them. Now if you didn’t know something about what it was all about you couldn’t accept them errors and mistranslations in this Book. Alright now, for they all ate and drank of that rock, that went with them. Read on.
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: and that Rock was the Messiah
DR. KINLEY: Now, and that rock was Peter
STUDENT BODY: No.
DR. KINLEY: ‘Now why did you bring that up?’ Just to show you how you been deceived all your life, stumbling and blundering around. Now the 16th chapter of Matthew and the 18th verse.
DAVID ROSEN: and I say also unto thee
DR. KINLEY: and I say also unto thee
DAVID ROSEN: that thou art Peter
DR. KINLEY: that thou art Peter
DAVID ROSEN: and upon this Rock
DR. KINLEY: and upon this Rock
DAVID ROSEN: I will build my church
DR. KINLEY: Now the Roman Catholic Church says that He was talking about He’s gonna build His church on Peter. And they refer to that right there, just like it reads. They refer… Now it doesn’t say anything about Him building His church on Peter there. You can read, can’t you? Repeat what you just said. Let’s get the sense out of it and see if it says that.
DAVID ROSEN: and I say also unto thee
DR. KINLEY: and I say also unto thee
DAVID ROSEN: that thou art Peter
DR. KINLEY: that thou art Peter
DAVID ROSEN: and upon this rock
DR. KINLEY: and upon this Rock, not that rock, but upon this Rock. What Rock? That Rock that went with them back there. Now here’s what I’m talking about. If He was back there and that’s the congregation or the church back there, He can’t build no church on Peter. How about that? But He can build one on Himself. How’s that? And another thing He said there too. He said upon this Rock I’ll build it. He didn’t say somebody else would do it. Is that right? Now we got preachers running all around all over the world talking about building churches. And another thing too, while we’re on that score, let’s look at it from this, as it is now, let’s look at it as it is. Now, the 17th chapter of the Act of Apostles says this: that Yahweh does not dwell in temples made by hands. And all of you know that the Roman Catholic Church, the Protestant churches, you know that as well as I do, they claim to have a building down on the corner somewhere, and it’s called such and such a church: I John, I John, II John or Paul, the Epistle Episcopal Church, or the Church of Christ or the Church of God or the Church of Something. Ain’t that right?
STUDENT BODY: Right.
DR. KINLEY: They run around in this Book and pick up all these names out of the Book and then they put ’em out there and hang a shingle out. And they got the people coming in there telling them all kinds of lies. Is that right?
STUDENT BODY: That’s right.
DR. KINLEY: Alright. But now Yahweh just simply doesn’t dwell in a building made by hands. Well now if He doesn’t dwell in a building made by hands. Now here comes Jehovah’s Witnesses. ‘well, what does He dwell in?’ Know ye not that your body. 6th chapter of 1 Corinthians and the 19th verse. Don’t you know that your body is the temple. Read it David.
DAVID ROSEN: What! Know ye not
DR. KINLEY: What know ye not
DAVID ROSEN: that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost
DR. KINLEY: that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit
DAVID ROSEN: which is in you
DR. KINLEY: Now wait just a minute. Now here’s Jehovah’s Witness running around talking about the Holy Spirit is not in any man. And He’s not in no building and He’s not in no man. Now where the hell is He? (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) Now I said that that way so I could attract your attention to this. Yahweh’s in hell and He’s in heaven and He’s in everything, everywhere. No where to escape from the, the presence of Yahweh. Is that right?
STUDENT BODY: That’s right.
DR. KINLEY: The whole universe in its totality is embodied in Yahweh and controlled with unerring accuracy and infallibility with universal spirit law. Now how do you like that? Now that’s the way it is folks. Now pretty soon I’ll tell you my reason for choosing this writing, by the epistle. I’ll tell you my reason for it. Alright. Now did you read that?
DAVID ROSEN: I didn’t finish it, Doc.
DR. KINLEY: Alright. Read.
DAVID ROSEN: What! Know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost
DR. KINLEY: Now don’t you know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost. Don’t you know that? Paul’s asking you a question. Don’t you know that? Then if you know that then why would you let somebody tell you there’s a building down the street there. Now I’m giving you what’s in the Book. So, your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit. Read on.
DAVID ROSEN: which is in you
DR. KINLEY: which is in you. The Holy Spirit which is in you. They say it’s not in you. Then you set up and read a Bible and you can’t detect that. That’s something else. And they’re going around in the earth getting heaven and earth, thousands upon top of thousands of people just worry you to death, running in and out, knocking on your door, little old a piece of paper “Awake” and “Enlighten” and all those kinda things. Now the time is critical. It’s very, very critical. And then as critical as it is, it would pay you to pay attention to what He says. Now I told you the other night that it was your indispensable duty to come to school. And then when you come to school, then you sit there and you try to learn. Now I’m on your side, I’m not against you, it’s my job to tell you the truth. Now you might not like my way of presentation, I’ll admit that I’m rude and rough about it. I don’t like it, for your sake. They say… Listen fella, I do know what I’m talking about. I don’t have to worry around about trying to prove my ministry. Ain’t nobody on earth done any greater things than I’ve done. And I haven’t done nothing, the Holy Spirit through this body… And nobody on earth, living or dead… You’ll get a history here pretty soon. Dr. Gross and Dr. Harris have been writing a little something about it, and we got records to prove it. That the reason why I just come right on out and say what I wanna say, and people get offended and they go away and say, ‘I’m going and I ain’t coming back no more.’ I ain’t gonna compromise on your account. I’m gonna say what I wanna say. There ain’t nothing you can do about it. And if you get up and go on out away from here and don’t never come back, don’t you think you’re gone. You ain’t gone. No indeed, indeed. This thing will meet you just as square in the judgment. Tell you the same thing. II Thessalonians 2:7. Now I wanna show you how the old man knows a little something about ____ ____ ____. What are you gonna do about it then? It won’t be like this class we’re holding here tonight. Alright.
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: And to you… II Thessalonians 1:7
DR. KINLEY: II Thessalonians
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: 1:7
DR. KINLEY: 2:7
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: 1:7. II Thessalonians 1st chapter, 7th verse.
DR. KINLEY: II Thessalonians 1st chapter and the 7th verse
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: and to you who are troubled
DR. KINLEY: Now listen, you that’s been having all of your problems right there in these churches. Don’t know which way to go and all confused about it. See that now? To you who are troubled. What?
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: rest with us
DR. KINLEY: Have a seat. (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) Take a, take a seat. Let your temperature go down. That’s what you’ll have. You’ll have a high temperature setting under me. It’s warm in the collar, just a smoking for it cause I’m gonna say a thing that’s gonna make you sore. So you just expect it. And you’re gonna get mad about it too. I’ve had a.., some of my very best friends, some of them setting here looking me in the face now, have cursed me out. And I’ve received just as great a blessings as I have cursing from ’em. And they wouldn’t be here tonight if they hadn’t seen and understood things. And they’re grateful for it. But I can’t ____ nobody. And I’ll tell you something else I wished you would do, and it’ll help you if you do it. Get “Time” magazine, “Newsweek,” “Life,” magazine or “Readers’ Digest,” or some of those books and look at the religious page in it. Read it and you’ll find out what’s going on, it’ll tell you about what’ going on in the world. Now they’re coming around to the name Yahweh. They all are coming around to the name Yahweh. As in the mean time, they have got embarrassed now, there’s so many sects and cults, and all of ’em are saying that they are right. And then they’re reading in the Bible about all of these divisions, and so, now what they’re trying to do is to reunite some of ’em. Trying to get some of ’em united, so it won’t look so bad. And then this fellow Sung Yong Moon (Sun Myung Moon?) just recently come over here. He says you’re gonna have a second chance. I wouldn’t take no chance on that. (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) I wouldn’t advise you. Alright read.
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: and to you who are troubled
DR. KINLEY: and to you who are troubled, you been having problems down here in your church with your pastor and all them different kinds of things. You who are troubled, rest with us.
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: When Yahshua the Messiah shall be revealed from heaven
DR. KINLEY: When Yahshua the Messiah shall be revealed from heaven
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: With his mighty angels
DR. KINLEY: with his mighty angels
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: In flaming fire
DR. KINLEY: No. Um, um. No, sir. You gonna have a second chance. Wonder why he can’t read a Bible. With a flaming vengeance. Alright read on Doc.
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: in flaming fire taking vengeance on them
DR. KINLEY: taking vengeance on them
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: That know not Yahweh
DR. KINLEY: Now do see why we have that first aim read in this school here. David, would you mind reading the first aim.
DAVID ROSEN: To help you find and know Yahweh as He really is and actually exists.
DR. KINLEY: Now you see that now? Now that’s what our promise is, is to help you find and to know Yahweh as He really is and as He actually exists. Now there’s some more to that. Now you just can’t run around and read scriptures around in the Bible and all and understand the Bible. Now that’s just not the way to go about it. But people quoting scriptures and reading the Bibles, and they think that’s sufficient. And they say, ‘that man sure do have a good knowledge of the scriptures. He sure is a smart man. He’s a …’ No, no that ain’t gonna get it. What you have to do, listen, have to be able to put this purpose together. And Yahweh… You who are troubled rest with us. This is the apostle talking, and telling the.., back there in the early.., as they call it, Christian Era. That wrong. No such thing as a Christian Era. His name was not Christ, from whence the derivative Christian. Now when you learn that? Somebody said, ‘well, I been doing this so long, I’m just gonna keep right on.’ Well you just go right on to the lake. Listen folks. All you folks that are here tonight. This is your last night. If you’re new here, and you’re.., if this is your first time here. Now listen, pay attention what I’m saying. This is your last night that you can be saved in Jesus Christ.
STUDENT BODY: Alright. Alright
DR. KINLEY: After tonight no more salvation. Won’t help you. Believe it or not that’s the way it is. Somebody said, ‘well I ain’t gonna buy that I’m gonna go along any how.’ Yeah, go on to the lake. That’s right. You better do some looking around. You who are troubled rest with us. ____ on.
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: when Yahshua the Messiah shall be revealed from heaven.
DR. KINLEY: when Yahshua the Messiah shall be revealed from heaven
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: with his mighty angels
DR. KINLEY: with his mighty angels
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: in flaming fire
DR. KINLEY: in flaming fire
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: taking vengeance on them
DR. KINLEY: taking vengeance on them
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: that know not Yahweh
DR. KINLEY: on them that know not Yahweh. Did you hear that? Now it’s not going to be no comes in and begging you and say, ‘why didn’t you get right with Me and follow me and all that.’ He’s gonna take flaming vengeance on you. Your pastor and you too. The blind leading the blind. But that’s what’s gonna happen. Alright.
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: and they that obey not the glad tidings of our savior Yahshua the Messiah.
DR. KINLEY: and they that obey not the glad tidings or the gospel of Yahshua the Messiah. Now you either obey or else you’ll be lost. Now that’s all there is to that. Now you should get that learned. You have to obey. Now there’s some important things here. Now every time you come. We tell you about these names Yahweh, Elohim and Yahshua. And you should understand. We’ve made a little change in our aims there. We fixed it up a little better, it hasn’t gone to press yet. It is: to help you find and to know Yahweh our Elohim. Now the reason why we say it that way is because Yahweh, Deuteronomy 6:4, Yahweh our Elohim is… Read it. Deuteronomy 6:4.
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: Hear, oh Israel
DR. KINLEY: Hear, oh Israel.
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: Yahweh
DR. KINLEY: Wait a minute. Hear. Now you have to hear. You see what I’m talking about? Now somebody they wanna, ‘I heard but I don’t believe that stuff. I’m going on just the same what I been doing. All of my people died in that church over there and they all went to heaven.’ I’d advise you to go back to the cemetery and look around and see. (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) That’s right. I’ll assure you that that’s where you’ll find them in the graveyard, if it hasn’t been molested since. And there’s nobody broke through there either. Alright, finish Dr. Harris.
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: Hear, oh Israel
DR. KINLEY: Hear, oh Israel
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: Yahweh our Elohim
DR. KINLEY: Now Yahweh our Elohim
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: is Yahweh a unity.
DR. KINLEY: is Yahweh a unity. Now listen, now. This is what this means. There’s a Most Holy Place, a Holy Place and a Court Around About. It’s just simple to say 1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3. That’s all there is folks. One fellow made the expression, he said, ‘now, look. Now I don’t know about that.’ Said ‘that idiot sitting down there talking about 1, 2, 3.’ He’s sitting up here looking at me straight in the face right now. (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) How you feel tonight Dr. Williams? (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) Yes, indeed. Now he come down to swab me around about water baptism, and all those kinda things. And he found out that.., and we had a agreement, I might as well tell you about it, with the Church of Christ. And they promised, he promised that if he defeated me as the dean of this school, why then we would go and take all of our folks and go join the Church of Christ. And if I did him a licking, why then he would come over here and bring all of their folks over here. That was the agreement, and we’d be over here together. How long ago has that been, Dr. Williams?
LASALLE WILLIAMS: 12 years.
DR. KINLEY: Twelve years. Well he’s been over here twelve years, but the rest of them, they wouldn’t come. And we had a debate with the others and we had one here not too long ago. Dr. Harris had a hold of him, Dean White, I believe it was. They were talking about water baptism. And we have told you many times, we’ve said many times that water baptism is not for the Gentiles as an ordinance from Yahweh. That’s not in your Book. It’s not in your Bible. You can’t read it out of there. It’s not in there. I know every passage there is in it, and so, I’m telling you now you can’t read it out of there. If there’s anybody in this building thinks they can, get up and read it. We don’t want but just one verse. How’s that? Okay.
Now, we had tonight the 5th chapter of I Thessalonians read. And we wanna get back in it. 5th chapter of I Thessalonians. It speaks about the day of Yahweh coming as a thief in the night. We had a man come here and he’s talking about, oh my lord, talking about the Day of the Lord coming in the night. The Day of the Lord coming in the night. (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) Now wouldn’t that be something. The Day of the Lord coming in the night. And he had a couple of brethren with him and he said, they said, why he knew more about the coming of the Day of the Lord than anybody that they’d ever seen. Now this is the Day of the Lord, shall come as a thief in the night. Now in that it speaks about when they say, ‘peace and safety,’ then shall come sudden destruction. First I wanna tell you something about what the Day of the Lord is, or the Day of Yahweh is. And there’s been some awful blunders made about that: The Day of Yahweh. The Day of Yahweh is a day that doesn’t have no start and no finish, no beginning and no end. It is eternity itself. Now listen folks. If I would go through this.., to dig down in to this like I ought to, I couldn’t finish it tonight. I know that I can’t. It’s too long to give you a profound understanding of it. I just couldn’t finish it tonight, but we will work on it some. It comes as a thief in the night. And then about.., when they say, ‘peace and safety’ and then comes sudden destruction. Now we have campaigns going all over, crusades going on all over the world. They call themself preaching the gospel to, to all the world the gospel of the Kingdom. And then the Jehovah’s Witnesses and the majority of the Christian world, now pay attention to what I’m telling you now, because what I’m saying is deep in the spirit, and it’ll almost have to be revealed to you, just words is inadequate and insufficient. First, get down in Genesis there, you got the creation. Now listen the creation itself did not take place in the realm of time, it took place in the realm of eternity. That Day. That Day has had no start and it hasn’t had no end. That is the Day of Yahweh. That is the Day in which He shall judge the world in righteousness by that Man which He hath ordained. That is the Day. Now look in Genesis there, and listen, listen, pay attention now. I, I don’t have time to run it all down, and he did do… In the first chapter of Genesis He did do the running down of those six days of the creation. Now, all of Christendoom, you can’t find no books. You just can’t find them, that’s able to get into the realm of eternity, and bring this creation out so that you can understand it. Now that’s where the error takes place. Now that Day has had no beginning, it has had no ending. Read about that Day, Doc.
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: 2nd chapter of Genesis, first verse.
DR. KINLEY: 2nd chapter of Genesis.
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: That’s in the Holy Name Bible. Chapter 2 and verse 4, I believe it is in the King James Version. These are the origins of the heavens and the earth, when they were created.
DR. KINLEY: Now listen. These are the origins. This is the origination of the heavens and the earth.
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: when they were created
DR. KINLEY: when they were created
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: in the day
DR. KINLEY: In, Now “the” is an adjective, and it goes to a definite thing. Now look, read it again.
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: these are the origins
DR. KINLEY: these are the origins
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: of the heavens
DR. KINLEY: of the heavens
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: and of the earth
DR. KINLEY: and of the earth
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: when they were created
DR. KINLEY: when they were created
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: in the day
DR. KINLEY: Now you see all of it took place in that day.
STUDENT BODY: Okay.
DR. KINLEY: Wasn’t no such ____. Now back there in the first chapter of Genesis, you have each day in logical sequence in telling you what happened on each day as we have got it up here. Now I just got through telling you that the creation did not take place in the realm of time, but it did take place in the Day. And that’s what your Book says. That’s why so many scientists can not agree with the Mosaic account of the creation. They can’t figure it out. Now since they can’t figure it out, why then you’ve got evolution and everything else ____ ____ ____ ____ back here, but then this Day or the realm of Eternity which means it’s no time span there at all. It’s eternity, it’s not, it’s not time. It’s without time. It’s eternal. It has no beginning, it has no ending. The creation took place within that. Now let me explain, let me show you. Now Moses is up here, you see the Mount Sinai, and you see Egypt here and you see all of this. Now Moses is up here, now then Moses is way down. And there wasn’t anyone back there with Yahweh, so far as a created creature is concerned. There wasn’t no heavens, there wasn’t no earth. Eighth chapter of Proverbs and the 22nd verse. There was no heavens and there was no earth back there. There wasn’t.., I can’t say a time, but in the realm of Eternity there is no heaven and no earth in it, now listen, but the substance from which it was made up of was there.
STUDENT BODY: Alright. Alright.
DR. KINLEY: Now what was that? That was spirit. Read. Now I wanna let you know what I’m driving at so you won’t get lost. I’m trying to tell you about the Day of Yahweh coming as a thief in the night. Now that’s what I’m trying.., what you call Judgment Day. Now that’s what.., it isn’t that, it ain’t that way. You’re already in the Judgment, and that’s been going for the longest… Now if you want me to read it, I will read that for you. But now you pay attention, you pay attention. This is hard work up here if you’re doing what I’m trying to do. And I wouldn’t know a thing about it, if Yahweh hadn’t revealed it to me, there ain’t nobody never had sense enough to tell you about it. Your carnal mind just don’t penetrate a spiritual realm like that, and this is what make it so great. That’s alright, read.
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: Proverbs 8:22.
DR. KINLEY: Proverbs 8:22.
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: Yahweh possessed me
DR. KINLEY: Yahweh possessed me
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: in the beginning of his way
DR. KINLEY: Hold it right there. John 1:1, and then we’ll be right back.
DR. FRED ALLEN, JR. You getting ready to go for it.
DR. KINLEY: Yeah, I’m getting ready to go for it. Yes indeed. Now remember we wanna find out, as Yahweh has appointed a day, that’s in the Acts of Apostles, when He shall judge the world by that Man whom He hath ordained and in the mean time, you read about Him coming as a thief in the night. The Day of the Lord or the Day of Yahweh. Is that right?
STUDENT BODY: Right.
DR. KINLEY: Now we’re trying to tell you something about what, what that is. And then when they say, ‘peace and safety,’ then comes sudden destruction. Now to try and clarify all of that. Alright.
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: John 1:1.
DR. KINLEY: John 1:1.
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: In the beginning was the Word.
DR. KINLEY: Now in the beginning was the Word.
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: and the Word was with Yahweh
DR. KINLEY: and the Word was with Yahweh
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: and the Word was Yahweh
DR. KINLEY: and the Word was Yahweh
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: the same was in the beginning with Yahweh
DR. KINLEY: the same was in the beginning with Yahweh
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: all things were made by him
DR. KINLEY: Just hold that right there, Doc, just for a second, just for a second. Now look. Do you recall, or have you forgotten that I told you that Ambassador College didn’t know and they read the 1Oth chapter of 1st Corinthians. And I also told you that it was Yahshua the Messiah Himself that told Moses that He was coming through the loins of the woman. Now I’m telling you that He was back there. You follow me now? What we’re talking about is the Day of Yahweh and we’re talking about it sneaking upon you as a thief in the night. Now we’re not talking about the night coming. We’re talking about the Day coming as a thief in the night. Now a thief he doesn’t go around knock on your door and say, ‘well, I’ll be in at 12 o’clock tonight,’ (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) so you can have the police and everybody around there looking for him. He ain’t gonna do nothing like that. ____ Does he?
STUDENT BODY: No.
DR. KINLEY: So now you see. Now, this Day of Yahweh will come as a thief in the night. Now He was in the beginning. Now in the beginning was what?
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: was the Word
DR. KINLEY: and the word was with Yahweh, in the beginning now. Is that right?
STUDENT BODY: Right.
DR. KINLEY: Now skip on down to the 14th verse of the 1st chapter of John.
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: and the Word was made flesh
DR. KINLEY: Now don’t you see? And the word was made flesh. Alright.
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: and dwelt among us
DR. KINLEY: and dwelt among us
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: and we beheld his glory DR. KINLEY: and we beheld his glory DR. ROBERT HARRIS: the glory of the only begotten of the father DR. KINLEY: the glory of the only begotten of the father DR. ROBERT HARRIS: full of grace and truth
DR. KINLEY: full of grace and truth. He said, ‘I proceeded and come forth from the Father and I am going back to the Father.’ He didn’t say if the devil didn’t hinder Him. Now I could.., I don’t have the time, but I could, Dr. Harris, we’ll tie this verse up, tie it up real good. Are you all with me so far?
STUDENT BODY: Yes. DR. KINLEY: Now we got, now I wanna tell you what we got. We got this word, they calling Jesus Christ, who is Yahshua,
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DR. KINLEY: and Elohim too, and Yahweh, all back here together in the realm of eternity as one, as a unity. STUDENT BODY: That’s right.
DR. KINLEY: Now that’s what we got. Where the average person they just see Jesus as born of the virgin Mary, and that’s where they think He started in at. That’s wrong. It’s just as wrong as it can be. Now Colossians 1:15,14 and 15. Now look folks, pay attention, pay attention. I said many times on this floor there is no such thing as Before Christ. Course I’m conscious of the fact, that the people who are calling Jesus Christ, His real name is Yahshua, but there is no such thing as BC.
STUDENT BODY: Right. Right.
DR. KINLEY: The Jews, they don’t use no BC. They use AM. No, that doesn’t mean in the morning. (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) It means in the year of the world. And that with them is about 5736 or 37. Right, David?
DAVID ROSEN: Right.
DR. KINLEY: Are we done with that up there on the board? You got that? You might have to try to there and figure it a little bit over there. Now we’re really into something tonight. And what we’re talking about is the Day of Yahweh coming as a thief in the night. And we’re talking about Him judging the world by that Man whom He has ordained. Now you have already learned from 1st Thessalonians there. That He’s not gonna come back and beg these folks to repent, but when He shows up He’s gonna take flaming vengeance on them that don’t know Yahweh. Now that means this Freddy, that if your pastor don’t know, you better move.
STUDENT BODY: Right. DR. KINLEY: It’s dark and ugly. Try to learn something. Alright, now. Read. EDWARD MASON: 1:15. Who is the image of the invisible
DR. KINLEY: What he’s talking about here… in the 13th verse. Is that where the subject begins? What he’s talking about here is Yahshua.
EDWARD MASON: Colossians 1:14. DR. KINLEY: Let’s take the 14th verse. EDWARD MIXON: In whom we have redemption through his blood
DR. KINLEY: Now, in whom we have redemption through His blood. That’s Yahshua the Messiah. We have redemption through His blood. Alright.
EDWARD MIXON: even the forgiveness of sin
DR. KINLEY: even the forgiveness of sin. Now listen, now this is what we’re talking about now. We are telling you now that there’s no such thing as before Him. Now that’s what were telling you now. Alright, read on.
EDWARD MIXON: who is the image of the invisible El
DR. KINLEY: who is the image. Now just a minute. You all gonna to have to do something here. Gonna have to go back where you got the verse above.
EDWARD MIXON: 14th verse? DR. KINLEY: Yes. EDWARD MIXON: In whom we have redemption through his blood
DR. KINLEY: Now that’s the flesh, the blood is in the flesh. In whom we have redemption in His blood, that means in His flesh that the blood was in there. And that means that here, just as they offered up these sacrifices.., to.., in His blood, Yahshua the Messiah, we have redemption or restoration in His blood. Now that gets Him in a physical body, that’s what I’m talking about. Alright read on.
EDWARD MIXON: who is the image of the invisible El. DR. KINLEY: now He is the image of the invisible El. Now we got Him in the spirit. STUDENT BODY: Alright. DR. KINLEY: He’s the image. In the flesh He’s the image of the invisible El; meaning this or the invisible Man. Yes. Read on. EDWARD MIXON: the first cause of all creation
DR. KINLEY: Now that’s the first cause of all creation. Now if He’s the first cause of all creation then you cannot go beyond Him; therefore, you cannot have no such thing as before Him. How about that? Yes indeed. I’m after, if I can, the Day of Eternity now. And we wanna show you, we want you to see, we want you to understand what we’re talking about. We don’t want you in the dark at all. I’ll have to hasten on. He’s the first cause of all creation. Now listen somebody said this, ‘well, He never made the devil.’ Said He was the first cause of all creation. Now the devil didn’t create itself.
STUDENT BODY: Right. DR. KINLEY: How about that? Alright let’s find out about it. Read on. DR. ROBERT HARRIS: for by him were all things created DR. KINLEY: for by him were all things created DR. ROBERT HARRIS: that are in heaven DR. KINLEY: Now, that are in heaven. Now listen the devil was once in heaven, and he was cast out. Is that right? STUDENT BODY: Yes. DR. KINLEY: Alright. Read on. DR. ROBERT HARRIS: and that are in earth
DR. KINLEY: and that are in earth. So it don’t make no difference whether in heaven or in earth. Everything that exists it was created by Him. See that? Now you’re really on back there now. That’s right. Alright. Read on.
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: visible and invisible
DR. KINLEY: Now visible and invisible. Yahweh is invisible. Visible and invisible. The angels are invisible. We just told you that He that was manifested in the flesh, that was Yahweh that was manifested in that physical body. That was Yahweh Elohim that was manifested in that physical body; in other words they wouldn’t know a elohim beside Him. How about that? Oh my goodness. You know that’s wonderful when you get down to it like that. Ain’t it? When you can get Him as an invisible spirit creature, without any descriptive, listen folks, without any descriptive shape and form, being the essence and the substance, the limits and the bounds. It means you can’t get outside, you can’t go around and you can’t come under. He’s the limits and the bounds. He’s the source and the substance, the limits and the bounds. You oughta know Him there now. You tell me, so I can go to school, you know any preacher or anybody on earth that’s preaching in the.., then as what we’re talking about here now. And I want to go to their church.
STUDENT BODY: Nowhere. Nowhere. Nowhere. DR. KINLEY: I want to join up with ’em. Alright read. DR. ROBERT HARRIS: visible and invisible DR. KINLEY: visible and invisible DR. ROBERT HARRIS: whether they be thrones DR. KINLEY: Don’t make no difference whether they be thrones DR. ROBERT HARRIS: or dominions DR. KINLEY: or dominions DR. ROBERT HARRIS: or principalities
DR. KINLEY: Now, He gave Adam dominion. And then in heaven they had a dominion there. Don’t make no difference, whether they be thrones or dominions. Alright read on.
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: or powers DR. KINLEY: or powers. Don’t make no difference. There is no power above or of Yahweh. None what so ever. Alright read on. DR. ROBERT HARRIS: all things were created by him DR. KINLEY: all things. All things, not some things, but all things were created by Him. DR. ROBERT HARRIS: and for him DR. KINLEY: and for him DR. ROBERT HARRIS: and He is before all things
DR. KINLEY: Now don’t you see why I said there is nothing was before Him. And you running around talking about before Christ, meaning, not realizing that the name is Yahshua the Messiah and accepting Jesus Christ. There’s no such thing as before Him. I’m not saying now, that Jesus Christ is the right name, but in your King James version you got Jesus Christ. There isn’t no such thing as before Him. So everybody say that. I told you, listen here folks, I told you, oh, I hate to say that, but I will say it folks, I told you so many things that nobody else in the world has told you. You might as well face it. That’s no lie. If you think, you, you, if you look in your version, in your King James Version of the Book. They got a little reference Bible. Look at the top of the page and you’ll find BC 4004. Ain’t no such thing as that. Now how about that? Before Him. He just said wasn’t nothing before Him. Didn’t he?
STUDENT BODY: Right. DR. KINLEY: Now somebody, they used to have the habit of going out, running out of here and saying, ‘that man said.’ No, that’s the Book said that. No such thing as before Him, all things were created by Him and for Him, and without Him there wasn’t nothing made that was made. Is that almost right?
STUDENT BODY: That’s right.
DR. KINLEY: Is that what you got there. Alright go back to Proverbs 8:22.
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: Yahweh possessed me
DR. KINLEY: Now Yahweh possessed me. Now listen folks, you good Baptist, Methodist. Yahweh possessed Him, He was in the bosom of the Father, immersed in the bosom of the Father. Yahweh possessed me. Yahweh is plural, and yet He is one. Is that right?
STUDENT BODY: Right.
DR. KINLEY: Is that, is that right?
STUDENT BODY: Right.
DR. KINLEY: Now I mean this, this is what I meant by that. This is the masculine part and this is the feminine part; in other words this is the Father and the Mother, or the masculine and the feminine. Somebody said, ‘now you know I don’t believe that stuff.’ Another thing, listen here, you can’t get that out of this. You can’t get that out of this either. There never has been and never will be any masculine creature on this earth plane without a mother and a father. You say, ‘hold it, hold it, you forgot about Melchizedek.’ No I didn’t. He had a mother and a father. Well somebody said, ‘well, who was his mother and his father.’ I could just stand here and say old man Melchizedek. (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) How about that? (DR. KINLEY LAUGHS) No. But Moses didn’t write the pedigree and genealogies of him. Why? Because Yahshua and Yahweh Elohim was without any beginning or any end. Alright. Now, are you with me thus far? We’re talking about the Day. Alright. Read on Dr. Harris.
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: Yahweh possessed me in the beginning of his way
DR. KINLEY: Yahweh possessed me in the beginning of his way
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: before his works of old
DR. KINLEY: Now, before his works of old. Alright.
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: I was set up from everlasting
DR. KINLEY: I was set up from everlasting
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: from the beginning
DR. KINLEY: from the very beginning
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: or ever the earth was.
DR. KINLEY: Now that was before the earth was. Say, I’m reading out of the Bible. Am I not? Alright read on.
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: When there were no depths
DR. KINLEY: When there was no such thing as the depths. Now you’re back in the realm of eternity. That’s what I’m, that’s what my aim is now in going back here. Alright read on.
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: When there was no depths
DR. KINLEY: When there was no such thing as the depth. Now you’re back in the realm of eternity. That’s what my aim is now in going back here. Alright read on.
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: when there was no depth. I was brought forth.
DR. KINLEY: when there was no depth I was brought forth. What do you mean? When there was no depths, I was brought forth. Now listen folks, pay attention now, pay attention. Now Yahweh being the Father, which is symbolized by this cloud as spirit. The cloud is symbolical of the Father and Yahweh is spirit. Now listen. Now then, Yahweh possessed Him in the beginning of His purpose. I’ll make that word ____ ____ ____ in the beginning of His way, the beginning of His purpose. How about that? Is that alright? Alright, alright. Now, now what else?
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: when there were no fountains abounding with water
DR. KINLEY: Now when there were no fountains abounding with water.
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: before the mountains were settled
DR. KINLEY: I want before He was brought forth
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: when there were no depths I was brought forth
DR. KINLEY: I was brought forth. Now look, that’s where we get such thing as when we say you. Pay attention now. He’s taking on a shape and form. Now that’s where we get it from. Now when that took place, it didn’t take all of the cloud here to make up just this. It didn’t take all that to make it up. Before there was any creation or anything brought forth, when there was no depths and when there wasn’t anything, Yahweh possessed Him in the beginning of His purpose. And then He took on a shape and a form, or an image. Now listen. We tell you right there Yahweh went out of business. And His ____ got with Him, this is Yahweh in shape and form, that’s Elohim. It’s a title for Him in shape and form. And then, then, He begins to create. Now look, we’re in the realm of eternity now, not in time. You don’t have no sun and no moon. You don’t have no earth. You don’t have none of that. Oh my goodness. That’s all that was back there. Wasn’t no angels either. There wasn’t no nothing, except Yahweh all by Himself. (Dr. KINLEY LAUGHS) How about that? Oh my goodness, that’s, that’s Yahweh Himself just took on a shape and form. That’s Yahweh in shape and form, that’s incorporeal. Then He steps on down and He takes on another shape and form. (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS AND CLAPS) ____ ____ ____ ____ Did you hear me? Somebody said, ‘I don’t believe it.’ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____. Yes, sir, rolled the stone away. ‘Lazarus, come on out of there.’ He come forth. How about that? Oh, I tell you. Um, um, um. I tell you. You’re in there now. Then shaped, what you just read over there in Colossians that all things were created by Him, after He takes on this shape and this form. So that’s Yahweh Elohim in shape and form. Then He creates, now listen, He creates everything in the realm of eternity. Now listen, pay attention, cause this is hard. Now the sun and the moon and the stars, they were placed in there as Yahweh’s official time keepers. So this back here, it was before the beginning of time. Then you’ll have to be in the realm of eternity. Then somebody comes up with this, and it should be explained, but the average preacher can’t explain it. Now I just got through telling you that Yahweh created, not in the realm of time. There wasn’t no days in it, just the One Day. I had Dr. Harris to read it. Is that right?
STUDENT BODY: That’s right.
DR. KINLEY: Then… Somebody will turn over to the 20th chapter of Exodus and say remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy, for in six days God created the heavens and the earth. Now what you got to say about that Mr. Smart Alek? Now how about that? Now I say He created it in One Day or in the realm of eternity. And listen here folks, let me get this over to you, you still yet abide in That Day and you’re never gonna get out of it, never been out. Now that’s The Day of Yahweh.
Alright. Now, we have these six days here, but before we do, we’ll finish that up Dr. Harris.
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: Before the mountains were settled
DR. KINLEY: before the mountains. Now he’s telling you before the mountains. ____ ____ ____ out here. Before the mountains was settled.
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: before the hills was I brought forth
DR. KINLEY: before the hills He was brought forth
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: while as yet He had not made the earth
DR. KINLEY: while as yet He had not made the earth
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: nor the fields
DR. KINLEY: nor the fields
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: nor the highest part of the dust of the world
DR. KINLEY: nor the highest part of the dust of the earth
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: when He prepared the heavens
DR. KINLEY: when He prepared the heavens
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: I was there
DR. KINLEY: I was there
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: when He set a compass upon the face of the depth
DR. KINLEY: when He set a compass upon the face of the depth
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: when He established the cloud above
DR. KINLEY: when He established the clouds above
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: when He strengthen the fountains of the deep
DR. KINLEY: when He strengthen or established the fountains of the deep
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: when He gave to the sea his decree
DR. KINLEY: when He gave to the sea his decree
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: that the waters should not pass his commandment
DR. KINLEY: that the waters should not go no further or pass his commandment
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: when He had appointed the foundations of the earth
DR. KINLEY: when He appointed the foundations of the earth
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: then I was by him
DR. KINLEY: then I was by him. Watch out now.
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: as one brought up with him
DR. KINLEY: as one, took on that image, as one brought up with Him. How about that? All the same substance, the same incorporeal spirit, as one brought up with Him or with the Father. How about that? Oh boy. Do you see what, what I’m talking about? Folks there’s something to this. Alright.
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: and I was daily his delight
DR. KINLEY: and I was daily his delight. Read on.
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: rejoicing always before him
DR. KINLEY: Alright that’s enough now. Now look. The 20th chapter of Exodus. Now, we said we wanna tell you something about that. Now, Moses. Get Genesis. I need to go over here first, and come into this. Now this is from Adam or the creation and Adam, as shown on that chart over there and then down to the flood. This is the, this is the end of a world. This is the beginning of an age. This is the end of one. Now I should tell you this. Now I should tell you this. Now, the end of.., that’s, that’s why we should talk about it. Now we’ve read all about here and He created everything, visible and invisible, whether there be thrones or what not. And they were taken.., created in the realm of eternity. Now that, this is showing you the beginning. This is showing you the realm of eternity. Now listen, the angels had this back in here. See that span. The invisible span, you can’t tell a thing about it, because it’s in the realm of eternity. You follow now? Now then when He created the heavens and the earth. And that’s what the man in the Garden of Eden is from there down to this. That’s another age, and the physical creation is already taken place. Now then over here in this age, this is after the Noahic flood. This is after Adam’s driven out of the Garden of Eden. This is after the flood. Now then you’re over into another age. Now listen, this is under the dispensations of the law where He spoke to the Jews and called them up in the mountain. This is up here. Abraham. This is Abraham, and Moses was here, or the Mosaic Law and the Melchizedek, the Abrahamic promise. Then you come on down to the crucifixion. And then that brings us up to where the Messiah was crucified, that’s the end of that age; in other words each one of these was the end of a world or the end of an age. And now then, over here is where we are now. But now what I wanna talk about for a minute or two is this: I wanna get Him, in this right here, and take you back up here and show you the six days of this creation that Moses talked about. Remember the Sabbath day in the 20th chapter of Exodus. Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy. For in six days Yahweh Elohim created the heavens and the earth. Is that right?
STUDENT BODY: Right.
DR. KINLEY: Is that what you got there?
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: Right. Exodus 20:11.
DR. KINLEY: Exodus 20:11. For in six days.
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: Yahweh made heaven and the earth, the sea and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day.
DR. KINLEY: and rested the seventh day. Now. You understand me now? Turn your Bible to the 24th chapter of Exodus and the 16th verse. Now I’m showing you how your Bible is put together now. I oughta cut out here somewhere, in case you have a question, but I should say this too, but I bit off more than I’m able to chew. I told you all I wasn’t able to finish. Alright read.
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: and the glory of Yahweh abode upon Mount Sinai and the cloud covered it six days.
DR. KINLEY: Now Dr. Harris, you got to hold. Now Freddy, you’ll have to go back into the first chapter of Genesis. And the cloud covered it six days. And on the seventh day He called unto Moses out the midst of the cloud. Now is that what you got? Now in Genesis. Repeat that Doc, somebody, whoever’s got the Bible.
EDWARD MIXON: 24:16. And the glory of Yahweh abode upon Mount Sinai. And the cloud covered it six days.
DR. KINLEY: Read on.
EDWARD MIXON: and the seventh day He called
DR. KINLEY: Hold it, I want the seventh day. Now that’s what I want you to pay attention to is the seventh day. He called unto Moses out of the midst of the cloud. Now go back to Genesis and get that seventh day.
DR. FRED ALLEN, JR. Genesis 2. Genesis 2:33. Genesis 1:33.
DR. KINLEY: Genesis. And he told you 1:33. What are you reading out of the Holy Name Bible.
DR. FRED ALLEN, JR. In the Holy Name and in the King James it’s 2:2.
DR. KINLEY: Alright. The King James is 2:2.
DR. FRED ALLEN, JR. and on the seventh day Elohim ended his work which he had made.
DR. KINLEY: and on the seventh day He ended His work. Now look. Coming on down to the first chapter of Genesis. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was without form and darkness was upon the face of the deep and the spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters and God said let there be light and there was light. The evening and the morning were the first day. And then He goes on down into the second day, the third day, and the fourth day, as we have illustrated up here. Is that right? Now what we’re talking about, we’re talking about the creation taking place in the realm of eternity. Now that’s what we’re talking about. And we’re talking about Moses being up here in Mount Sinai in the Post Diluvian Age, right here. And then up in Mount Sinai and having a vision, and Yahweh is showing him the creation of the heaven and earth and He’s taken six days to show it to him, as the sun rose and set six days. And He said there remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy. That’s in the Exodus. For in six days He created the heavens and the earth. Now listen, remember the Sabbath. Now here’s the Seven Day Adventist. The Seven Day Adventist said they knew, way back as far as Genesis, that Adam, Adam knew nothing about no seventh day, that He didn’t know a thing about it. He didn’t say nothing to him about it. Why not? Because when He put him in the garden, He told him what to do. He told him to keep the trees straight, to dress the garden. Is that right? He didn’t tell him nothing about no resting no Sabbath day. Did he?
STUDENT BODY: No.
DR. KINLEY: Never said a thing about it. Now, listen now, the garden was in fruition. There wasn’t no dead limbs or nothing, so he didn’t need to do no dressing, so then he just sit down and rested. He didn’t have nothing to do.
STUDENT BODY: Right.
DR. KINLEY: He was in rest, that’s what I’m trying to talk about, or He was in the Sabbath. Oh my goodness. And Paul just told you, what you just read. You who are troubled rest with us. What are you saying that for Paul? Because Yahshua the Messiah, He said, I’ll work a work in your day… He’s done all the work, and now you set down and rest. Oh my goodness. I tell you. You who are troubled. What was His work? Fulfilling the law moving it out of the way. It was only given to the Jews, not the Gentiles, when He said there, I’ll work a work in your day that you shall not believe though a man declare it unto you. Oh I’m telling you. They got you all upset or troubled. Got you washing and sacrificing, and eating the Lord’s Supper, and drinking grape juice, and fooling around here in the water, going in swimming, and a lotta foolishness. It’s just stupidity and ignorance. And you notice this, Yahweh told that man Adam touch the fruit of that tree. And the devil comes along and says this, ‘you ____ eat and drink.’ You’re not supposed to touch them sacrifices, you’re not supposed to eat no Lord Supper. Said, taste not, handle not, for with all are perish… Is that right?
STUDENT BODY: Right. Right
DR. KINLEY: You wasn’t invited to the first party and you was never asked to either one of them. Talking about the Lord’s supper. As I told you, I already done told you this, maybe you done forgotten it but I will repeat it. You read me one verse out of the Bible where Yahweh, Lord, or God or Jesus Christ ever said anything in the history of the world from back to back in the Bible, about a Gentile getting baptized in physical, in the water, and I’ll eat your Book. I mean right now. And I had a pretty good supper too. (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) But I’ll eat her up. It just ain’t in there. He hasn’t given no ordinance like that. Alright, now. Them six days. Remember the Sabbath, Sabbath to keep it holy and the seventh day He called unto Moses out of the midst of the cloud. Is that right? On the seventh day He called him. Now that seventh day is what I’m telling you now, that seventh day that your reading over here in Genesis. Read.
DR. FRED ALLEN, JR. and on the seventh Elohim ended His work, which He had made and He rested on the seventh day.
DR. KINLEY: and He rested on the seventh day back in Genesis. Now this is the same seventh day right here that He’s calling Moses out of the midst of the cloud. And this colon here mean this. That there’s something left out of here. Now the vision that Moses had during these six days, solar days, the vision that he had, while he’s up there in the mount way after the creation had taken place. He’s in the realm of eternity and Yahweh has given him a rerun or a repeat, or he’s seeing in a vision. Now let me say this while I’m at it. Now, Yahweh narrated this, when He’s talking, Moses is seeing that. He said, let there be light. Let the waters beneath divide from the waters above and let the dry land appear, let thus and so. He’s narrating each one of them days, but when the real creation took place He didn’t say nothing. ‘What are you talking about now, Mr. Dummy?’ I’m just gonna be what I will to be. And I’m not saying nothing about it either, (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) How about that? (DR. KINLEY LAUGHS) How about that? When He showed during Moses the vision and ____ ____ ____ He’s narrating it. Now the Seven Day Adventist think that because that’s back there, written back there, they think that Adam knew about the seventh day, the Sabbath day, but now that’s the only place you’ll find it back there. Now, but now, what is taking place, remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy. Now here’s where the Sabbath day comes in at. When Israel come up out of Egypt through the Red Sea and went out into the wilderness. Now listen now. This is the first Sabbath I’m talking about now, that Adam knew nothing about. Not a thing was known about it right down in this age. Abraham. Isaac and Jacob. They didn’t know nothing about it. First time it was mentioned or any hint of it was right here, this is a hint, when Noah was in the ark, He said rest those seven days, but He didn’t say anything about no Sabbath. But now then that’s a hint. But now here’s where the Sabbath comes up and showing him about the Sabbath, in the gathering of manna, that was their food supply, when they were out there in the wilderness. And Yahweh gave them manna from heaven. And He said, ‘now you can gather it six days but on the seventh day which is the Sabbath you won’t gather none… That was the Sabbath. And He told Moses to tell Israel, to remember, that’s what He’s saying there, remember about that Sabbath back here. That’s the first mention of a Sabbath. That’s the reason why He said, just before He gives him the commandment, that is before He spoke from Mount Sinai, ____ ____ ____ ____ the manna. And then when He speaks from the top of the mountain, He said, remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy. Now, Revelations 10:4. Now this wouldn’t be no good without, we got to nail the whole thing right together. Ain’t that right?
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: and when the seven thunders had uttered their voices
DR. KINLEY: Now, listen. Now, listen. And when Yahweh said, let there be light. Moses is in the cloud, and you know lightning and thundering is in the cloud. How about that? Of course I know you know all that.
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DR. KINLEY: I went on to work ____ ____. When I come to Los Angeles, I heard a Voice from Heaven saying. And I’m telling you. And folks, I really heard that. I ain’t lying to you. I heard that Voice from Heaven. Alright. I heard a Voice from Heaven.
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: seal up those things that the seven thunders uttered
DR. KINLEY: seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: and write them not
DR. KINLEY: and write them not. Now why not? (READER STARTS TO SPEAK) It’s already written. Write it not. You just read about it. Go back now to the 1Oth chapter and about the 4th verse. Now what I’m after now. We’re always talking about every jot and every tittle. Now we want to get to you back in Genesis.
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: and when the seven thunders had uttered their voices and I was about to write.
DR. KINLEY: and when the seven thunders. Colon. I was about to write. Now if we get right here. That puts me.., what took place here, that’s over in the first part of the genesis. Moses wrote it over there. Now listen folks, that’s the reason why. Now pay attention, I wouldn’t miss this one for nothing. I wouldn’t miss this one for nothing. You gotta go back and do this. You’re gonna have to go to the 24th chapter of Exodus and the 16th verse. Now I want you to pay attention to what I’m gonna say. Then go to the 1st chapter of Genesis. Real quick please.
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: and the glory of Yahweh abode upon Mount Sinai
DR. KINLEY: um. Hmm.
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: and the cloud covered it six days
DR. KINLEY: and the cloud covered it six days
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: in the beginning Elohim created the heavens and the earth
DR. KINLEY: in the beginning. Now this is what I want to show you now. This is why, you just.., people think they can just take the Bible and study it from Genesis on to Revelations. You can’t do that and get no understanding out of it. Now here’s the reason why: over there in Exodus where He was talking about, the cloud covered it six days. And you got the vision after that, you got it wrote down over here in the first part of Genesis, but now when you start over in the first part of Genesis you ain’t got no cloud at all. You ain’t got no cloud covered. You ain’t got no cloud there at all. Now you see why you can’t start over there? You got to have a head. Here’s your cloud up here and if you ain’t got no head, then you ain’t got nothing. Let me tell you this. In the formation of a child in his mother’s womb, the head is formed first, from whence the rest of the body emanate or grows out from. is that right?
STUDENT BODY: Right
DR. KINLEY: You see that now. But this cloud disappeared because it represent Yahweh. Since it represents Yahweh. Now when you go back over here, you have got Yahweh just took on a shape and form. It said in the beginning God or Elohim. And you don’t have no cloud at all, there at all, so you can’t do nothing with it. Now do you understand? Now that seventh day that’s in Genesis in the second chapter there, I thinks it is in the King James Version of Genesis there, where it says that seventh day, is the same seventh day that’s in the 26th chapter of Exodus here, 24th chapter and the 16th verse. That’s the same Sabbath day. Now look folks and listen, now if you didn’t know what I have been talking to you about, you couldn’t prove that Moses ever did exist. You couldn’t prove the divine authenticity. There’s nothing you can do with it. And you can’t get up in the realm of eternity like that. You can’t create that, the heavens and the earth, you don’t know nothing about no Sabbath day.
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DR. KINLEY: You follow now? Now listen, in the 17th chapter of Acts of Apostles, and get that day that He’s appointed, (THE BELL RINGS). The bell. I told you I wasn’t gonna be able to finish this. Yahweh has appointed a day wherein He shall judge the world in righteousness by that Man whom He hath ordained. What is it, 17:31? Acts 17:31.
READER: Because he hath appointed a day in the which He will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom He hath ordained, whereof He hath given proof unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead
DR. KINLEY: That’s right, Now look folks, in conclusion, you’ve heard that. Now we were talking about, here the lessons that Dr. ____, Dr. ____ ____ about, when they say peace and safety, then comes sudden destruction. And the Day of Yahweh will come as a thief in the night. Is that right?
STUDENT BODY: Right.
DR. KINLEY: Now that’s, now that is what we have been talking about. Now I tried to show you now where you that we have been in the realm of eternity all along. And yet, so the official time keeper, the sun and the moon have been rising and setting. And then supposed to be, years and so forth and so on, and the days and the months and years. But they were created in the realm of eternity; and while Moses is up here in the cloud, after the flood too, that’s way down too. And then he is seeing this vision and seeing how that Yahweh created it. John on the Isle on Patmos out here, he’s looking back and showing you that he was in the realm of eternity, John said, he didn’t see no night there. And if you go down to the first chapter of Genesis; this is what you find. You find that, that this thing, that day, and the next day, and the next day, the next day and the next day, and so forth and so on. It just continues to go on that way. You don’t have no end till you get down to the other… So he said it was in the realm of eternity and not in the realm of time. Now I hope and trust that you have gotten something out of it, out of this lecture ____ ____. But now it will come as a thief in the night. And when you think everything is all right: peace and safety. Now the reason why I brought that up is on account of Israel over there, and the threat of war that’s going on over there now. I wanna tell you this, judgment day there has actually started back here. The judgment has begun back here, on the Day of Pentecost. Right here I think it was, the Day of Pentecost. But now then, ____ ____ ____ back here. And Titus come up to Jerusalem and destroyed the temple and the city, ____ ____. And then, now He told them in the 24th chapter of Matthew, I couldn’t miss this, to pray that your flight be not in the winter or upon the Sabbath day, because He knew that those Jews.., well they didn’t accept where the Messiah.., as the real Messiah. They would just ____. And then they would be killed. And then He also told ’em that the women to pray that they be not with child at that time because of the hardships and all. And they would be worried and so forth and so on. Now.., because he knew that they was gonna ____ Him. ____ ____ keeping the Sabbath Day, not seeing that Yahshua the Messiah had moved it out. And they were gonna sit there and fester. And that’s just exactly what happened.
Now here we are back up in the same thing right now. And here, over here now, Sadat has given Israel 90 days to get out the Sinai peninsula and also the Golan Heights. If they didn’t, why then there would be all out war. Now, I said this: now if Yahweh didn’t intervene… There is only not quite 15 million Jews in all the earth now. We got the statistics at home. Let ’em read ’em up there, Now about.., it’s not only about 300,000 in Israel now. There was about 3 million there but since this last war there’s been so many of ’em killed. And so now this whole Arab… Do you remember how many Arabs there was there, the Arabs.., the United Arab Republic. It’s up in the millions. Now they have Atomic bombs and what not, already to pounce down on Israel there, which means now, that Yahweh is just about to intervene. Now Kissinger has been over there. And he’s, they’re trying to negotiate some permanent peace treaty. And Israel is willing now to give them the Sinai peninsula. So now they are working with him. He’s given ’em 90 days to, from the time backup, which will come up to, I wouldn’t miss this one for nothing, which will come up to the Passover. This year, April the 15th. The 14th is the Passover. And come up to that. Now every time on the Sabbath day, that’s what Messiah told ’em. Every time that the, the Six Day War broke out or right at the time when Israel wouldn’t move and set down there and wouldn’t do nothing. So that, that’s what happened. Every time they wait now. They got wise enough to wait. And now, no Israel’s not gonna try to defend theirself. At least that’s what they think. Because of those holy days, they wouldn’t do anything. So then they try to set it for that particular time and pounce down on ’em. But Israel did in this last time, she jumped on ’em before they could get off the ground. She left ’em stranded in the Six Day War of June the sixth, 1967.
Now another thing too. Now the last war we were other there and we told them that they wasn’t gonna win. We told ’em, Israel wasn’t gonna win, neither was the Egyptians gonna win. But now they are bit and bound to go against and run Israel into the sea; and Yahweh said that will never happen. Or to annihilate Israel. Now there’s something else about that Israel business that I ought to tell you people. Don’t think it’s them people over yonder. That’s the wrong folk. And there’s just 14 there, nearly 15 million Jews in the world. There are far more… I’m a Jew myself. And everybody that has the Holy Spirit in ’em is not a Jew outwardly but is a Jew inwardly. And as.., look, as the sand of your sea and as the stars of heaven. So there ain’t no way in the world for you to annihilate ’em. So I hope you got something out of it. I don’t want to carry on and keep you any further, but I don’t have the time and the bell has rung and I know you wanna go home. We don’t wanna wear your patience out.
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