Part II of a lecture given by Dr. Kinley on April 16, 1975 in Los Angeles, California.
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DR. KINLEY: I’m happy and glad to testify to the things that Yahweh has revealed to me. I’m particularly interested in some things that we have written in our book, and we are often being questioned about it, and there seems to be some misunderstanding, so, I’d like to clear that up. Do we have a copy of our book? And if so, find it in there where I said that Yahweh is taking on shape and form in part. Now, listen folks, Yahweh is the limits and bounds. That’s what the emcee told you. He is the father. Now to be father you have to be first. You can’t go beyond that. Now I hope you understand that. To be father means to be father. And He is the limits, now you can’t go outside of the limits. He’s the bounds, you can’t go outside of the bounds. He is the source, there’s nowhere else for anything to come from but Him, nowhere else. Everything in its totality comes from Yahweh. Now I hope you understand at least that much.
Now there’s been some questions about where did man come from and refers to the inhabitants before Adam and a whole bunch of darned foolishness and ignorance and superstitions, and a lot of stuff that’s been taught. But now at this school we aim to get at the root of things. Now I’m gonna just take some time right here. And this is gonna be the most important thing that I’m going to try to stress tonight, is what I’m gonna talk about right now: now Yahshua the Messiah, I want you to know who He was. Now He was the son of Yahweh, the only begotten son of Yahweh. Now I did not say created, I said begotten son, the only begotten son. Now we’re at ground zero: where nobody can go beyond what we’re talking about, the Father and his Son, Yahshua. Now then Yahweh – now listen close so we won’t have this to come up no more. It’s gonna come up some more, but what I mean it won’t be for no debate, no argument or no trying to explain it to somebody unless it be some new person. And if we do attempt to explain to some new person we all want to be together on it, and we want to see eye to eye and face to face. In fact we want to have, we want to have a perfect understanding thoroughly furnished unto all good works. That’s what we want. So now this Elohim, this is not a name, that is a title not a name. The emcee told you this: he said it was a title for the father; listen now, not a name for the father but a title for the father in shape and form: Elohim. Now that means that Yahweh Elohim, this is Yahweh in shape and form, and this is a title for Him in shape and form. And in this shape and form (now listen) of a man (now this is what we’re talking about right here on this chart) this is incorporeal or spiritual embodiment. Now this is Yahweh incarnated. Now this is the father Yahweh incarnated in this form. Now this is what I got the book for. It did not take, this cloud denotes, this cloud that goes all the way around the chart (now the emcee’s already done said this, but as a rule it’s just a song) it goes all the way around this chart, the cloud. Now the cloud denoted Yahweh. It indicates Yahweh. You understand that now? Now within the cloud, He takes on a shape and a form. Now here’s the cardinal point, and here’s where the misunderstanding comes in, and this is what we wrote in our book: it did not take all of the cloud to make up this little shape and form. Now when we use the expression that this is Yahweh in incorporeal shape and form it can be construed or misunderstood to mean that that was the sum total of Yahweh. That is not so. Now listen. Yahweh. I want you to read that. 2nd Corinthians, I believe it is 3:17. Now listen folks, Yahweh is spirit. Now we have to get that understood. Now listen, pay attention! Now spirit, Yahweh is spirit.
Yahweh is the father, and Yahweh is spirit. Now He’s the source. And He is the substance. He is the limits. And He’s the bounds from whence everything, it doesn’t make any difference what it is, it has to come from Him. Now listen. The sum total of the creation, angelic or spiritual and physical, all of it come from Yahweh, every bit of it. And it did not take up all of Yahweh to make the whole thing. Therefore we stated in the book that the universe in its totality: that means an incorporeal and also invisible was embodied in Yahweh and controlled with unerring accuracy and infallibility, listen, by universal spirit law; therefore there can be no errors in it. We again stated this: that everything that was made was threefold. Now somebody coming along don’t have no knowledge of nothing and don’t know nothing about it and just reading around here in the Bible, `well I disagree with you.’ He has no way of proving that he’s right or wrong. We do! Now we say Yahweh is threefold, yet He’s just one. Yahweh is one. Now how do you prove that? Now pay attention. I’m trying to teach. I’m not trying to do what you call preach. I’m trying to make everybody in the place understand what I’m talking about. And I’m careful with my expressions. Everything in the universe, every animate and inanimate object and thing in the universe is made up to point to the father, to Yahweh. That’s why He made everything as it is, so that you wouldn’t have no excuse for colossal ignorance and stupidity. You can’t run up in Yahweh’s face and say, `I, I’m sorry, I didn’t know it,’ because everything in the universe, it doesn’t make any difference what it is, incorporeal and physical, I’m repeating, He made it as it was or as it is to point to Him to abolish your and my stupidity and ignorance. Not only that, now listen, everything He told the man to make was made up that way, threefold. The man himself is made up threefold. All right now let’s get, let’s get into that and see what we got. How do you go about proving that? Now remember I said that He told, everything He told man to make was threefold. Don’t forget that now. And say listen, don’t you go down the street and let some idiot down the street tell you something different from what I’m telling you. Now look here, He told Moses to build Him a tabernacle. That right?
AUDIENCE: Right.
DR. KINLEY: Then He told him how to build it, but He wouldn’t dare tell Moses to build a tabernacle. No you can’t do that, until He builds one Himself, that’s the universe. The tabernacle is the universe. Now you see Moses how I did that? So now then I want you to build a tabernacle. I want you to build it with a Most Holy Place, a Holy Place, and a Court Around About. That’s 1, 2, 3. See that now? Well what is this? This is just a physical tabernacle that He told the man to build. Now I want, I want to read that. It’s the 25th chapter of Exodus, where He told Moses to take an offering from the children of Israel and build Him a tabernacle. And He told him for what purpose that He wanted him to build it. Read.
READER: Exodus 25 and 8. And let them make Me a sanctuary that I may dwell among them according to all that I showed thee after the pattern
DR. KINLEY: Now just a minute! Now don’t you see we’re talking about a pattern. Yahweh’s talking about a pattern! You see that now? You got to have something to go by! Well somebody say, `Well, I tell you I’m going by something.’ Well, what are you going by? `I’m going by what I read in the Bible.’ No you’re not. You don’t even know what you’re talking about. Don’t understand what you’re reading in the Bible. Then there wouldn’t be all these sects and cults and isms and ologies out there in the world. And listen, for your information, there is interpolations and mistranslations in your Bible. I don’t care what version it is. Now how about that? Now a lot of people wouldn’t know what an interpolation was. That’s a spurious phrase. A mistranslation is a, it’s not correctly translated. That’s what it is. Now we can go through it and show you some of them too. In other words, Freddie, what I’m talking about down here in this school, we’re supposed to know what we’re talking about and we don’t stand to be corrected by nobody. Why not? `Cause you’re wrong,’ somebody says. No, I beg your pardon. I’m not wrong, because I do what Yahweh says. And when you try to chastise me and straighten me out by something that somebody else said, then you’re wrong. Now listen. We’re talking about the Bible now, and you’re reading out of the Bible. Yahweh said speak to the children of Israel. Is that right? And do what?
READER: That they may bring me an offering of every man that giveth willingly with his heart. He shall take my offering, DR. KINLEY: um hum
READER: and this is the offering which he shall take of them, gold and silver and bronze. Then down in the eighth verse. And let them make me a sanctuary that I may dwell among them,
DR. KINLEY: um hum READER: according to all that I showed thee DR. KINLEY: um hum READER: after the pattern of the tabernacle DR. KINLEY: um hum READER: and the pattern of the, all the furnishings thereof, even so shall ye make it. DR. KINLEY: around the 25th verse, 40th verse READER: And see that thou make them
DR. KINLEY: Now wait a minute. Now look up here folks. Look up here. Now this is why I don’t want no sass off of you. This is the exact reason why I am not gonna stand no sass off of you. Read.
READER: And look that thou make them after their pattern which was showed thee in the mount.
DR. KINLEY: Now He didn’t just tell him about it, He showed it to him. And then told him, and then not only that, He was right there with ’em. Now go back and read that verse again, say that, speak unto the children of Israel and tell them to make them a sanctuary that He might dwell among them. Now here’s what I’m after there, is, why wasn’t He, why was He, that He wasn’t dwelling among them then. You’re just reading things and don’t pay no attention to them and just drive right on. We don’t do that down here. Now just let me, let me give you another one before you read that. Just to show you how that, how that, how that we can work the thing. 10th chapter of 1 Corinthians and begin with the 1st verse. Now remember He said now speak to them and tell them to build Him a sanctuary according to the pattern that He showed, that He might, listen, that He might dwell among them. Is that right?
AUDIENCE: Right.
DR. KINLEY: Now we’re saying if, He was right among you all the time. Now we’re fixing to read somewhere where He WAS with them.
READER: 10th chapter of 1 Corinthians. DR. KINLEY: That’s right READER: Moreover brethren I would not that you should be ignorant. DR. KINLEY: um hum READER: how that all our fathers were under the cloud and all passed through the sea DR. KINLEY: um hum READER: and were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea. DR. KINLEY: um hum READER: and did all eat the same spiritual meat DR. KINLEY: um hum READER: and did all drink the same spiritual drink. DR. KINLEY: um hum READER: for they drank of that spiritual rock that went with them. And that rock was the Messiah.
DR. KINLEY: Now that rock was the Messiah. Say did you know that Ambassador College just last year found out that, that this Jesus that he’s talking about was back there with Moses. They know all about everything, but they didn’t know Jesus was back there with Moses. Now it said that spiritual rock that went with them, that is to say that Yahshua, Yahshua correctly speaking, was right along with them. Now this is what I want you to see in that. You remember I told you that He, Yahweh, (TAPPING ON THE BOARD) this was His only begotten son, and Elohim was a title for Yahweh in shape and form here in this cloud. And that it did not take all of the cloud to make up this one little body. And here they’re come up out of Egypt under this cloud, this same cloud, and He went right along with them right through the Red Sea right with them. Now then He’s telling them, telling Moses up in the mountain to build Him a sanctuary that He might
AUDIENCE: dwell among them.
DR. KINLEY: dwell among them. Here, He’s with them here, He ain’t with them out here. Something happened. What’s going on? That’s Yahweh in a body. Now where was He at at that time? He was in the mountain at that time when He told Moses. But where was He dwelling if He wasn’t dwelling among them? It says it right there in the Book, on the back side of the mountain afar, read it.
READER: And Moses took the tabernacle. Exodus 33:7 DR. KINLEY: Exodus 13 READER AND AUDIENCE: 33:7 DR. KINLEY: 33:7 READER: And Moses took the tabernacle DR. KINLEY: That’s right. READER: And pitched it without the camp afar off.
DR. KINLEY: He pitched, now wait a minute. He pitched it without the camp. They were camping in here. And Moses took, took the tent of the tabernacle and pitched it afar off, afar off, not with them, but afar off, on the backside of the mountain when they got in there. And now He called Moses up into the mountain and He’s telling Moses to tell them to take an offering of the children of Israel and build Him a tabernacle or a sanctuary that He might dwell among them. And move away from way over here and get back over into here. Now then here’s where it was. There was three tribes on each side of this tabernacle making up the twelve tribes. And then He was to dwell, not in flesh and blood now, because we’re talking about this incorporeal form that dwelt in the tabernacle. Where in the tabernacle did He dwell? Leviticus 16:2. We want to know right, we wanna, we wanna let you know we do know what we’re talking about down, we don’t have to ask nobody no questions.
READER: Leviticus 16:2 DR. KINLEY: That’s right.
READER: 16:1 and 2. And Yahweh spake unto Moses after the death of the two sons of Aaron when they offered before Yahweh and died
DR. KINLEY: Wait just a minute. Now Aaron, these two sons of Aaron. Now Aaron’s playing the part of the high priest. And while we’re on that, Aaron wasn’t the high priest. Yahshua was the high priest. And Aaron was a type of the high priest.
AUDIENCE: (LAUGHS) DR. KINLEY: and his two sons was also. Now this is where it’s so particular, that you ought to get a lesson out of this. Yahweh killed Aaron’s two sons out here for offering up strange fire. And so don’t you go offering up nothing strange, no strange stuff.
AUDIENCE: right DR. KINLEY: You don’t have no excuse to offer up nothing strange. AUDIENCE: right
DR. KINLEY: He’ll tell you what He’ll accept and what He won’t accept. We’re trying to keep you from offering up some strange fire here.
AUDIENCE: That’s right DR. KINLEY: Alright. Alright. Read on now. READER: 2nd verse: And Yahweh said unto Moses
DR. KINLEY: And Yah, now wait, now here’s what we’re trying to find out. Now He said build Me a sanctuary that I might dwell among them. All right. And we wanna find out where He’s dwelling. Where He’s at in there. We gonna locate Him. All right. Read.
READER: And Yahweh said unto Moses DR. KINLEY: Yahweh said unto Moses READER: speak unto Aaron thy brother that he come not at all times into the Most Holy Place. DR. KINLEY: into the most Holy Place READER: within the veil before the mercy seat DR. KINLEY: um hum READER: which is upon the ark that DR. KINLEY: um hum, which is upon the ark of the covenant READER: that he die not DR. KINLEY: that he die not READER: for I will DR. KINLEY: For what! Hold it! For I will what? READER: appear in the cloud. DR. KINLEY: I will appear. He’s appearing where He’s dwelling at. I will appear READER: in the cloud upon the mercy seat
DR. KINLEY: In the cloud upon the mercy seat. See, see that? Now we’ve had a whole lot to say about Roman Catholicism, and we’ve had a whole lot to say about the devil. Right?
AUDIENCE: Yes
DR. KINLEY: Now you see where Yahweh said He was gonna dwell. Now where is the devil at? I just, I just want to show you the devil is a copy cat. Everything Yahweh does he tries to copy. And you not knowing no better, you fall right in line with the devil. See what I mean? Sometimes crying to give him your last dime almost. Trying to do the thing that is right and the devil is deceiving you just like he did Eve back here in the garden. All right, read Isaiah.
READER: Isaiah DR. KINLEY: Wait a minute. We want everybody to know, give them, wait till they can turn over and see. READER: Isaiah 14 DR. KINLEY: 14:14 READER: 12 DR. KINLEY: 12. We’ll take the 12th verse there. Read. READER: How art thou fallen from heaven O Lucifer.
DR. KINLEY: Now wait, we try our best to tell you that Satan is cast out of heaven, he’s fallen from heaven. He’s fallen from heaven. Now before we go any further there you better get over there in Ezekiel and see that he is that anointed cherub that covereth. We want to locate him good. Oh I got into so much here. It’s almost too big a bite to chew.
READER: Ezekiel 28:14 DR. KINLEY: 28:14. Read. READER: Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth DR. KINLEY: Now thou art that anointed cherub that covereth READER: And I have set thee so
DR. KINLEY: And I, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Now the devil, he done just like Yahweh makes him do. You see that? That’s what Yahweh created him for. Somebody said, `well he ain’t no good. I don’t see why Yahweh wanted to create him for. He ain’t no good.’ Oh I beg your pardon. Yahweh never created anything that wasn’t good, and very good. Good for what it was ever, for the purpose for which He created him. You don’t have to fix nothing to see that. And I would say he’s doing a pretty good job. He done a good job on me. I don’t know how about you.
AUDIENCE: (LAUGHS) DR. KINLEY: Read. All right. Thou art that anointed cherub that covereth.
READER: And I have set thee so. Thou wast upon the holy mountain of Elohim. Thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. DR. KINLEY: Um hum READER: Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created till iniquity was found in thee. DR. KINLEY: um hum READER: By the multitudes of thy merchandise
DR. KINLEY: Now just a minute, before you get into that. For you’re fixing to be in all that. By the multitude of his merchandise, selling you on this: selling you on the idea that Jesus said, said as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup over in this age here; selling you on the ideas of paying tithes; selling you on the idea of water baptisms; selling you on the idea of foot washings. And ain’t a thing in no Bibles. Ain’t nobody in this building that can get up and read in the Bible (I don’t care what version you got and I don’t care where you read, don’t make no difference) where Yahweh ever said for the gentiles at any time to get baptized in physical water. It’s not in the Bible, but the devil been selling you that as I.. He’s been telling you that Jesus said in the 26th chapter of Matthew 26th verse, Jesus said, `As often as you eat this bread and drink of this cup you show forth His death and suffering till He come.’ And he’s trying to sell you on the idea that He’s laying out there in the cemetery and He ain’t come back yet.
AUDIENCE: That’s right.
DR. KINLEY: That’s some of his merchandise. And he’s trying to tell you that he’s gone up into heaven and he ain’t got back yet. See the point? That ain’t the way the Bible reads. You see that? Oh I tell you. Now the point that I want to bring out here and I don’t have time to fool with that, is he was that anointed cherub that covereth. In other words these two cherubims of glory on each side of the ark of the covenant. Now Satan, he covered these; he was that anointed cherub that covered this. Their wings spread abroad above of the mercy seat and they met right in the center there, and the cloud that’s coming up from the censor formed this cloud, and Yahweh dwelt in that cloud, or He appeared, appeared in the cloud on the mercy seat above upon the ark. Now Satan, he’s up here. Now that means this: that He’s setting here upon the mercy seat. He’s setting here on the mercy seat. Now go over to Isaiah.
READER: Isaiah 14:12. How art thou fallen from heaven O Lucifer
DR. KINLEY: Now when he fell, He was seeing him fall from heaven. That’s what I’m trying to tell you. ___ ___ ___ here. He fell right passed Him. He’s setting there right upon the mercy seat and couldn’t ___ ___ ___ and said so: I saw Satan fall as lightening from heaven. Read that Freddie.
DR. FRED ALLEN JR.: Luke 10:18. DR. KINLEY: 10:18 READER: And He said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightening fall from heaven.
DR. KINLEY: Now you see that Roger? All right, now you see that now? This, this Most Holy Place is a type of heaven and he, Satan was that anointed cherub that covered: and Yahshua or Yah, Elohim (Yahweh in that shape and form setting right here on this mercy seat) and He saw Satan fall from heaven as lightening. He’s cast out. Now over in Jude it says that Michael and his angels fought. And Michael was one of, was a, was a war angel. Is that right? And he cast, now it didn’t say that that Yahweh cast him out of heaven, Michael and his angels fought and cast him out. That ain’t no job for Him to be fooling around with an old job like that. No. (LAUGHS) How about that? When He was creating, He created everything, He just spoke and it was done. Now the real facts of the case He didn’t say anything. He never said anything, but when you read over there in Genesis that said God said let the light be divided from the darkness. And the waters be divided, waters above from the waters beneath and let the dry land appear. He’s narrating that. He’s narrating that for Moses but Moses wasn’t back there when He created the heavens and the earth. So He don’t have to narrate.
So He just wills. Now here’s where we get the idea. I will be what I will to be. Whatever He wills to be He just wills it to be that and came forth. How about that?
AUDIENCE: Alright. Out of sight!
DR. KINLEY: He just will be the angels, he will be this shape and form. He will be just everything that is. Now what I’m trying to do, trying to get you to see that how Satan has, all over this world it doesn’t make any difference where it is, he’s got these people tied up in knots. And you couldn’t get out of that web to save your life, unless Yahweh brought you out, and with a carnal mind and a satanic spirit in the flesh you couldn’t make it out to save your life. The thing that you would do, there isn’t anybody, I don’t believe there’s anybody in this building but what don’t want to be a nice fella or a good person, everybody wants to be a good guy. Paul said, but when he would do good evil was present, he’s talking about him in his carnal state. Do you see what I’m talking about? And the good that I would do I don’t do that, and that that I wouldn’t do that’s the very thing I do.
AUDIENCE: that I do
DR. KINLEY: That’s your problem. Ain’t that right? You can’t master the devil, and your only way of escape, as the apostle said there is no temptation (you all get this too) there is no temptation overtaking you except that which is common to man, but with every temptation there is a way of escape. And Yahshua is the, a scape goat. That’s the only way. Now listen folks, that’s the way (you all get this straight) that’s the way Yahweh foreordained and predestined it to be. Now that means that no popes, no cardinals, no preachers, no bishops, no, there ain’t no preachers, there ain’t nobody that couldn’t do nothing. Can’t put you in heaven. Yahshua said, look folks, everything come out by Him, and got, everything’s got to go back by Him! Ain’t nobody can do a thing about it, no man in the flesh, they can’t do a thing about it. And you see them liars, they, they telling you flat lies all of your life. And you with a carnal mind and a desire to do good and be somebody, be right and go to heaven when you die (which is too late)
AUDIENCE: (LAUGHS)
DR. KINLEY: ___ ___ like that ___ ___ folks you’re in turbulence. But go on back there. Now we find out where He dwelt at, in the cloud above upon the mercy seat (is that right?)
AUDIENCE: Right. DR. KINLEY: or appeared at. Is that right?
AUDIENCE: Right. DR. KINLEY: Is that right? AUDIENCE: right
DR. KINLEY: Does everybody understand that that’s what the Book says? Anybody that didn’t understand it we’ll reread it. Now here’s what I’m after now. I told you the devil was a copy cat. Now read Isaiah.
READER: Isaiah 14:13. For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven DR. KINLEY: And I will ascend. Now he’s cast out. You see that? Now he’s saying, `I will ascend into heaven.’ READER: I will exalt
DR. KINLEY: Wait, Mickey! You’re going nowhere. Ain’t going no where’s, ain’t going into heaven at all. Now he’s cast out. Now he says he’s going to get back into heaven. Now he’s saying what he was going to do. All right, read.
READER: I will exalt my throne above the stars of Elohim
DR. KINLEY: Now, now watch this thing! I will exalt my throne above, he don’t want to be down here, he’s Lo o o o o w. He wants to go back where he was. He wants to be above! How about that? I will exalt my throne above, what?
READER: the stars of Elohim DR. KINLEY: the stars of Elohim. Quick read. READER: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation in the sides of the north DR. KINLEY: I will sit also upon, in the mount in the congregation of the sides of north. Read. READER: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds
DR. KINLEY: How about that one? He said He was gonna appear in the cloud and he says he’s going on above it. Now how about that! You see how the devil is? And now if you’re gonna believe him, you know what’s happened? Yahweh’s sent you a strong delusion that you might believe that lie that you might go in where the devil is.
AUDIENCE: That’s right. DR. KINLEY: That’s right folks. Said he was going to ascend above the clouds. READER: I will be LIKE the most
DR. KINLEY: Now you see? See that now? Yahweh says I will be (3rd chapter of Exodus), I will be what I will to be. The devil said I will be like the Most High. I told you he was a copy cat. Right?
AUDIENCE: Right.
DR. KINLEY: You see it now? Well you see, I didn’t, I didn’t want to get mixed up here with the devil and fool with him, but I just have, I just have to bring out some of this stuff. There just isn’t anyway, other than just, just to bring it out, out to you. And now he said he will ascend above, exalt his throne above the stars. He will ascend above the cloud. Read on.
READER: Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell DR. KINLEY: Yet thou will be brought down to hell READER: to the sides of the pit DR. KINLEY: to the sides of the pit or the hole in the ground. All right, read on. READER: They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee.
DR. KINLEY: Now wait a minute. When you begin to see, when you really catch on, then you look upon him narrowly, not broad. Don’t be ___ ___ ___ ___ narrow. Now you know what I’m talking about? I’m talking about the Pope of Rome (listen now) riding around on the sedia gestoria. And you have in your Book, I said right there, I mean this is a real picture, no fooling. I want it, I want it found. And I do mean it is Pope Pius the XII’s picture that we had to get permission to put it in this book. And he has two men, one on each side, I don’t know their names, standing on each side of him, he’s setting there on the throne. That is his picture in the book. That is his picture that he’s riding on the sedia gestoria on the shoulders of those men as the high priest, as a priest. Now listen to what I’m telling you now, cause I’m trying to bring it to you in such a way you can understand me, so there won’t be no excuse. Now they were on the staves of the sides of the, of the, of these, of these vessels: candlestick and table of shewbread, and the ark of the covenant, and these vessels. They run the staves through there but now the ark of the covenant, they couldn’t touch that. They couldn’t do anything at all. That was symbolical to the throne of Yahweh and He set there on the mercy seat above in the cloud. Now this is a picture of you.
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DR. KINLEY: The, the tabernacle is a tabernacle of your, of your body, or of the earthly part. The cloud is up here, your brain is the cloud, and you see the devil setting up here in your brain, psychologically speaking, controlling your thoughts and telling you that you owe allegiance and homage, obedience and so forth and so on to him. And then it’s often taught to you and it cuts a groove in your brain. Now convolutions, that’s a groove, and you know how your brain is crinkled up just like this cloud up here, just like this cloud. It’s that way to show you so it’s convoluted. Now when you get back in your, in, in, in your mind that way, it’s hard, it’s hard to tell you anything different. You’ve been raised up in that in all your life, and it’s hard to tell you anything new. When somebody’s trying to tell you the difference you ain’t paying no attention to it at all. And give no thought to it at all. Say, `well, the Roman Catholic Church is first,’ Protestants is just as bad. They’re the first and all the rest. And don’t make no difference what somebody’s telling you, you don’t pay no attention to it. Now what’s happened to you? Now that makes me to have to go over, and get the second chapter of 2 Thessalonians. Now remember he said there that he’d exalted himself above the clouds (isn’t that right?) and above the stars. Is that, is that almost right? Now here’s where Paul is getting what he is saying over here. He’s talking about this 14th chapter of Isaiah. Alright, read.
READER: 2 Thessalonians, 2nd chapter DR. KINLEY: 2 Thessalonians READER: Now we beseech you brethren DR. KINLEY: Now we beseech you or we beg you brethren. Alright. READER: by the coming of our Savior, Yahshua the Messiah DR. KINLEY: by the coming of our Savior, Yahshua the Messiah. He definitely will be revealed from heaven. READER: And by the gathering together unto Him
DR. KINLEY: And by the gathering together unto Yahshua the Savior. Now that’s what we’re talking about! We’re not talking about the Pope! And we’re not talking about your pastor! Get that straight. Ain’t talking about no cardinals, ain’t talking about no priests, we’re not talking about Moses either! We’re not talking about Jeremiah! We’re not talking about Isaiah! We’re not talking about Ezekiel! We’re not talking about Elijah! Read it again.
READER: Now we beseech you brethren by the coming of our Savior Yahshua the Messiah DR. KINLEY: Does that read anything like any of what I just said? AUDIENCE: No, sir. DR. KINLEY: Alright, read. READER: and by our gathering together unto Him, DR. KINLEY: And by our gathering together unto Him, not unto no man at all. Alright, read. READER: that you be not soon shaken in mind DR. KINLEY: that you be not soon shaken in mind! READER: or be troubled DR. KINLEY: or be troubled READER: neither by spirit DR. KINLEY: neither by satanic spirit or by spirit! READER: nor by word DR. KINLEY: nor by word! READER: nor by letter as from us
DR. KINLEY: nor by one of the epistles from even the apostles. You don’t understand it, don’t get shook up about it. See what I mean? Read.
READER: as that the day of Yahweh is at hand.
DR. KINLEY: Now listen. That the day of Yahweh is at hand! Now you know what you done, you drove me right back into something. He said it was at hand, it always has been at hand. You know what I’m talking about? Listen, I want to, I want to explain that. This indicates heaven or the realm of eternity, that is (listen folks) that is the day that has no beginning and has no end. It has always been at hand. Now Yahweh created everything in the realm of eternity not in the realm of time. So that day being an eternal day that you read about here in Genesis, it’s always at hand, ever present, always has been, always will be. Now do you understand? That day is at hand. Read.
READER: Let no man deceive you by any means
DR. KINLEY: Every time you turn around, He’s telling you don’t let no man deceive you by any means, by no stunt that the devil can pull, don’t you let him fool you cause he’s got a bag of tricks that it won’t hold still for a red light.
AUDIENCE: (LAUGHS)
DR. KINLEY: That’s right. He’ll get up in the pulpit with his collar backwards. And say I want you to know that boy is an orator. Yes indeed, one of the best orators and the best preachers you ever seen in your life. Yes, Yahweh’s made him like that. Put all the works in. He’s cultured. He’s refined. That’s right. And look, he’s nice looking too. That’s what the Book says! If you don’t think the Book said it, I’ll read it! Now when Yahshua the Messiah come along, He looked kinda like me.
AUDIENCE: (LAUGHS) DR. KINLEY: He looked just like you. AUDIENCE: (LAUGHS) DR. KINLEY: That’s what Isaiah said or that’s what He said of Himself. Is that right? AUDIENCE: That’s right.
DR. KINLEY: He has no comeliness, just wasn’t there. Oh boy, when you believe right, yea. Now that out there that’s, that’s veiled – badgers’ skin dyed red over the top of that thing. I tell you it didn’t look a bit hot (ain’t that right?) but the inside, boy, there was something in there, wasn’t there? Okay, read on now. Pay attention. Now what we’re talking about now is from, what Paul is commenting on Isaiah, 14th chapter of Isaiah and he is telling you about this, and he says I beseech you brethren by the mercies and by the coming of our Savior, Yahshua the Messiah, (listen now) that you be not soon shaken in mind, neither by letter, he wrote that during the 2nd epistle of Thessalonians. They didn’t understand the first one. And the first one reads like this: 4:16: for the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with the voice of an archangel and with the trump of God (I’m talking about how the King James Version reads) and the dead in Christ shall rise first and they which are alive that remain shall be caught up together with them to meet the Lord in the air. They didn’t understand that. They thought it was right then, so it necessitated in writing this epistle for a explanation. They didn’t understand the first one. And you know the reason why they didn’t understand the first one? Read it over there in Acts.
READER: Acts 17:10
DR. KINLEY: I just want you to see. Now you’re in Thessalonians. Now we’re showing, we’re showing, we just got through telling you they didn’t understand the first one. And we quoted what it was in the first one that they didn’t understand. And they thought it was the end of the age, and they expecting Him to jump down out of the sky. And then Paul had to write back up there and straighten it out. Okay. Now here’s why they didn’t understand.
READER: Acts 17:10. And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea DR. KINLEY: unto Berea READER: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews. These were more noble than those in Thessalonica
DR. KINLEY: Now the Bereans were more noble than them in Thessalonica. That’s your epistle. They were more noble, the Bereans were more noble than the, thessalonians. What made them more noble?
READER: in that they received the word with all readiness DR. KINLEY: in that they received the word with all readiness of heart READER: of mind, and searched the scriptures daily. DR. KINLEY: Oh no. Now just a minute. They read the, they read it, they read the what? READER: the scriptures DR. KINLEY: the Talmud. AUDIENCE: No. DR. KINLEY: The Mishnah. What’s this other little old book? Baltimore Catechism. AUDIENCE: (LAUGHS) DR. KINLEY: They, they, they read the catechism. AUDIENCE: No. DR. KINLEY: They read the prayer book. AUDIENCE: No. No. DR. KINLEY: They don’t do that? They read the Koran. AUDIENCE: No.
DR. KINLEY: Oh boy. Ain’t that the dog. Now you see how you can get behind? And you take this bunch of junk, these commentaries and things, and you don’t understand the scriptures, and you fool around with them, and they lead you right straight to the lake. Now here’s the apostles preaching and the Bereans, whatever they said to them, they, they looked in the scriptures to see whether what the apostles were saying to them was so or not. They didn’t look at no catechism. They didn’t look at no Mishnah. They didn’t look at no Talmud. They didn’t look at none of the commentaries. They looked in the scriptures to see whether what they or the apostles were saying to them was so or not. That made them more noble than them ignoramuses up there in Thessalonica. Did you get that?
AUDIENCE: Yes. DR. KINLEY: Now go on back to, to, in Thessalonica READER: 3rd verse DR. KINLEY: 3rd verse READER: Let no man deceive you by any means
DR. KINLEY: Now just don’t go let nobody fool you. Now you wouldn’t be so easily fooled if you was looking at scriptures instead of the Talmud or instead of the Mishnah or instead of the catechism. Look in the scriptures and see whether they was what, they’re saying would be so or not. Now let me give you something that you, something that you can run with. Now Yahshua the Messiah. I told you that, that Ambassador College, they didn’t know. And I read it to you in the 10th chapter of 1 Corinthians that the Messiah was with Moses when He come up out of here, and then when they got into the wilderness they pitched His tent on the back side of the mountain far away from the camp. He’s over here, now I read that to you. I read that out of the scriptures so you don’t, you can’t say now that I said it, it’s in the Book. Now repeat what you just read.
READER: Let no man deceive you by any means
DR. KINLEY: Now you see: If, if you do that, if you do that instead of fooling with the catechism. Now here’s the way the catechism works. They write out a question: When did God create the heaven and the earth? Now the answer’s already in the Book in Genesis 1:1.
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DR. KINLEY: That’s the catechism and that’s how you’re deceived. Then. Now that almost makes me to go on back here in the 1st chapter of Genesis ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____. Now you remember I told you everything: that day didn’t have no beginning, didn’t have no ending and that Yahweh created everything in the realm of eternity. Now then here, I’m going to get back this stuff I didn’t forget, I haven’t forgotten it either. Now this is the day that has no ending: the angels and all, everything was created in the realm or in the day of eternity. And now when you get through with the first day, the second day, the third day, the fourth day, the fifth day, the sixth day, the seventh day and rest. Then read what it says in the Bible, King James.
READER: 2nd chapter of Genesis 1st verse DR. KINLEY: 2nd chapter of Genesis the 1st verse READER: These are the origins DR. KINLEY: Now that would be in the last verse of your Holy Name Bible READER: the 4th verse DR. KINLEY: the 4th verse READER: Genesis 2:4 DR. KINLEY: Genesis 2:4 READER: In the King James Version DR. KINLEY: 2:4 in the King James Version. And then where is the other one? READER: 2:1 DR. KINLEY: 2:1. Alright read. READER: These are the origins of the heavens and of the earth
DR. KINLEY: Now these are the origins. Now listen. Now these are the origins. This is where they come from. This is the beginning of the heavens and the earth. This is where it come from. This is the origin of the heaven and the earth. Read.
READER: when they were created DR. KINLEY: when they were created READER: in the day DR. KINLEY: Now see, I’m quoting the Book. This is the Genesis – in the day when He created the heavens and the earth. READER: the day that Yahweh Elohim made the earth and the heavens
DR. KINLEY: He made it in the day. Now you ain’t got but one day. Now here you got 6 ___ ___ ___ in the catechism. See how he gets you nailed? And having you running around arguing and chewing the rag with everybody and you swearing by all that’s holy that you know what you’re talking about. Now you got Him creating the heavens and the earth in the day, that’s just one day or in the realm of eternity. Now go back to let no man deceive you by any means.
READER: Let no man deceive you by any means
DR. KINLEY: Now wait a minute. It don’t make no difference whether you’re called pope, cardinal, or bishop or, or minister, reverend or, or bishop or rabbi, or just don’t make no difference. Don’t you let no man deceive you by any means. That’s what the apostle said. Now why did he say that? Read.
READER: For that day shall DR. KINLEY: Now for that day READER: shall not come DR. KINLEY: Not days, that day, that realm of eternity, that day shall not come READER: except there come a falling away first.
DR. KINLEY: Now let me ask you a question. Aren’t there millions of ’em, forty millions of them coming out of the Roman Catholic Church and out of all of the churches you know anything about, aren’t they falling away?
AUDIENCE: Yes. DR. KINLEY: I want to know. AUDIENCE: Yes DR. KINLEY: You answer me! AUDIENCE: Yes! DR. KINLEY: Out of Judaism and everything else. That day couldn’t come except there come a falling away first. Read. READER: And that man DR. KINLEY: and that man READER: of sin DR. KINLEY: Wait a minute. Not them men, uh uh, not them men, but that man, that man. What man? Read. READER: that man of sin DR. KINLEY: that man of sin READER: be revealed
DR. KINLEY: Where? Incarnated in a physical body settin’ over there in the Vatican. That man of sin. What’s he doing that’s so wrong?
READER: be revealed.
DR. KINLEY: Hold it. What’s he doing that’s so wrong? He’s calling Yahshua the Messiah a liar when John 8:44 says he’s the liar. Well then you want to know how you’re calling Him a liar? Satan ___ often ___ ___ ___. I can’t get you straightened out down here on nothing. Now here’s where, now here’s, here’s why he’s calling Him a liar. Now I’m talking about the Pope. And I’m talking about the cardinals. And don’t you forget I’m talking about the orthodox Judaism too and I’m talking about protestantism too. I want you to understand that. Says there come a falling away first. Babylon has become the, Babylon means confusion. She’s the mother of harlots, the filth and abomination of the earth. Is that right? All this confusion you got out here. Yes. And the angel flew through the midst of heaven saying come out of her my peop.. come on out of confusion. What’s that all about? That you be not recei.. partaker of her sins and receive of her plagues. Now then the question comes up. Well what are they doing so wrong? Matthew 3:14
READER: Then cometh Yahshua from Galilee unto Jordan DR. KINLEY: That’s right. READER: unto John DR. KINLEY: unto John READER: to be baptized of him DR. KINLEY: um hum READER: but John forbade him DR. KINLEY: um hum READER: saying I have need to be baptized of thee DR. KINLEY: um hum READER: and comest thou to me DR. KINLEY: um hum READER: And Yahshua answering said unto him DR. KINLEY: um hum READER: permit it to be so now DR. KINLEY: um hum READER: for thus it becometh us to fulfill all righteousness.
DR. KINLEY: Now did you see He said fulfill. He did not say institute, says fulfill. Now they’re telling you that Jesus said: go and baptize everybody and that He instituted Christian water baptism. That’s what the Roman Catholics and the Protestants are telling you. That is a lie and he is deceiving you. He said He come to fulfill, they say He come to institute. Read. That’s all? Now you got, that’s, that’s one man, He’s talking to John. You see that now? Now that’s what He said He come to do. Now look over in the 26th chapter of Matthew. Look at that. No, look at Matthew 5:17 first. Go to Matthew 5:17 first. Now, now I’m showing you now what’s wrong. Now I’m showing you what’s wrong. I’m showing why they’re calling Him a liar. And look here, when Jesus come to John, or Yahs.., Yahshua come to John to be baptized (listen folks, get this thing straight, don’t make no more mistakes about it) He was fulfilling. Fulfilling what? Don’t you see there wasn’t nobody but Jews that come up out of Egypt down here. And they was baptized in the cloud and in the sea. We’ve already read that tonight, the 10th chapter of 1 Corinthians. If He’s going to fulfill it, John can’t baptize nobody but the Jews, no gentiles. And everything that ain’t, ain’t a Jew is a gentile and everything that ain’t a gentile is a Jew. How about that? Listen Mickey. That was in another world, another age. They’re telling you it’s in the New Testament. That is not so. He’s trying to fool you. It’s not in the New Testament. Matthew, Mark, Luke and John is not in the New Testament. That is not what the New Testament is. You follow that now? Now read the 5th chapter and the 17th verse.
READER: Think not that I am come to destroy
DR. KINLEY: Now listen, Now just a minute. He’s talking to a, a multitude here. He’s talk.., this is what He’s telling: think not that I am come to destroy the law or the prophets, but (that’s a conjunction that joins together two complete thoughts) now don’t think it, but they are thinking it. All right read.
READER: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. DR. KINLEY: But to institute. Can’t you read? AUDIENCE: No.
DR. KINLEY: But to institute. He told them that. Is that right? Now He says He come to fulfill and they’re going to make Him to be instituting. And they say that he, he come and we could.., to show us how to live and we should follow in his foot steps and begin over there He would die up on this mountain and went right on down to the cross, He died. That’s what he’s talking about. Do you want… Is that what you want to do? Would you rather do it yourself? See that now? Now we’re talking about don’t let no man deceive you by any means. That day shall not come except there come a falling away first and that man of sin be revealed in a vision incarnated in a physical body cast out of heaven. Now you’re talking, he sets above that’s in the cloud (is that right?) that sitteth in the temple. Where are you reading?
READER: 4, 4th verse. Who opposeth and exalts himself.
DR. KINLEY: Now you see? He opposes, instead of telling you what He comes to do and reading what He comes to do and telling you straight about it, he opposes by saying `no that ain’t the way it is, He is instituting.’ He opposes. And then what?
READER: And exalteth himself.
DR. KINLEY: Now look, look up here folks. Look up at me. And riding around on the sedia gestoria setting way above the congregation, opposed and exalting himself above everything – riding around on the sedia gestoria which is equivalent to the throne. Is that right?
AUDIENCE: That’s right!
DR. KINLEY: Now you can’t start nothing with me, that would spit in your eye, with his crown on with the letters wrote in it. The original crown that the high priest had back there had to have wrote in it – holiness unto Yahweh. Now here he comes along with written in his crown and studded in there with rubies and diamonds. Don’t, don’t start no stuff with me. And we said this tabernacle one, two, threefold. Got a triple crown, threefold crown and with the words – vicarius (that’s latin) filii Dei (that’s latin) translated it means the son of God. Is that right Dr. Harris?
DR. ROBERT HARRIS: Vicar of the Son..
DR. KINLEY: Vicar of the Son of God – that’s what it means. How about that? And he’s going between you and God. He’s puttin’ ’em in heaven, indulgences and so forth and so on. Look folks these things have got to be. There’s no way out of it. They have to be. And if they were not, then this Bible would not be true. This just has to be. There’s no way out of it. And all the confusion of Babylon the mother of harlots. Do you see what I mean? Read on.
READER: who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called Elohim.
DR. KINLEY: Now ___. He opposes, he set himself above, he exalts himself above that ___ or all that is called Yahweh. Read on.
READER: or that is worshipped DR. KINLEY: or that is worshipped READER: so that he as DR. KINLEY: Now hold it. So that he as what? READER: Elohim DR. KINLEY: Elohim or God READER: sitteth in the temple of Elohim DR. KINLEY: sitteth in the, this is the devil here, sitteth in the temple of Elohim READER: showing DR. KINLEY: in the vatican is another temple. Showing himself! READER: that he is Elohim DR. KINLEY: that he is God, putting ’em in indulgences and so on. Read. READER: Remember ye not.
DR. KINLEY: Don’t you remember I told you about this. And if you would read the scriptures you’d find out you’d catch up with that lying bastard.
AUDIENCE: (LAUGHS)
DR. KINLEY: All right now, you can do it in Matthew too. Remember ye not that when I was yet with you I told you these things. Read on.
READER: And now you know what withholdeth DR. KINLEY: And now you know with what withholdeth. READER: That he might be revealed in his time.
DR. KINLEY: Now listen. Now you want to jump all over me because I talk about the Roman Catholic Pope. And you want to jump all down my throat because I’m talking about the, the, the Orthodox Judaism. You want to jump all down my throat because I’m talking about the, the Protestant churches. You want to cuss me out. `Why don’t you go on and preach the truth and let us alone.’ You see what I’m talking about? That’s what the devils say. That’s what they said, `Why don’t you go ahead on and let us alone.’ Have you come to torment us before time? Ain’t that right?
AUDIENCE: Yes
DR. KINLEY: You, you’re just tormented when you want to be something else other than what’s right. You see that? And so now they say, `why don’t you go ahead, well, go, go ahead on down to the Roman Catholic Church, You’re raining down on the Roman Catholic Church. You’re always raining down on the church of God. Or what are you always raining down on the Methodists and the Baptist for?’ Say did you know that when Yahshua the Messiah come in the world, (now listen to what I’m saying) the Pharisees and scribes, just like these …, and the Sadducees, Essenes, the Zealots (I’m talking about the devil) they was always running up in his face and `by what authority do you do these things? You didn’t stop by at the temple there and get no credentials from us to go out and down around here to do no preaching. Now say you fellows you go down by the sea shore and get Him and bring Him up here. We didn’t give him or authorize him to do that.’ You remember how they give Paul his credentials to go down and to go into Damascus? Said, `we didn’t give Him none, Jesus of Nazareth as you call him. You go down there and arrest Him and bring Him back.’ And they went on down. And there He was sitting in the back of the boat and pushed Himself away from the shore. And he was fishing and boy, the power that was in that vessel, that body. `Did you bring Him?’ `No we didn’t bring Him.’ `Why didn’t you bring Him?’ `Never a man spake like that.’ Say, `well, how’d he talk, how’d he talk?’ Say, `He don’t speak like you scribes and Pharisees. He speaks with authority.’ You see, ___ ___ ___. You see what I’m talking about? You see that now? `Now if you want Him you go on there and get Him yourself.’ Nothing you can do about it either. `We just didn’t bring Him, that’s all.’ How about that? OK read on.
READER: 7th verse. For the mystery of iniquity doth already work.
DR. KINLEY: Now just a minute, just a minute folks. Now this is what I’m saying. Look up here please and give me your undivided attention. This devil has come all the way down deceiving, on earth and come all the way down through these dispensations and ages from the…, cast out of heaven, appeared in the garden of Eden and that’s what Ezekiel said over there. And he’s come all the way down through here. And now he’s incarnated in just one man – there ain’t but just one devil, the rest of ’em is demons, they are incarnated in physical bodies. Now folks that brings me down to have to say this to you, now it’s either got to be the Holy Spirit (and Yahweh is spirit) that’s in you or it’s just got to be the other fella. Now there ain’t no way out of that. It’s just one or the other. There ain’t no straddling the fence. It’s just one or the other. Read on, with what you just read.
READER: 7th verse the 2nd chapter of Thessalonians. For the mystery of iniquity doth already work.
DR. KINLEY: Even back in apostolic times the mystery of iniquity already worked as it worked back there in the Garden. I told you it come all the way from the Garden of Eden. I told you the facts – why don’t you look around once in awhile. The Mystery of Iniquity was working back in apostolic times. Alright read.
READER: Only he who now letteth DR. KINLEY: And see now, only he who now letteth READER: will let DR. KINLEY: will let READER: until he be taken out of the way
DR. KINLEY: Until he be taken out of the way. Now, now let’s get that straight. Now Paul is telling you this: only they that are preaching the true gospel of the kingdom will continue to preach until the last one be, that’s, over there is John, is taken out of the way. And John was the longest living. And so now Paul is telling you until John be taken out of the way. He’s the longest living. And He has revealed, Yahshua said, remember, (oh, I just, time flies so fast I can’t tell you everything) they was at that last supper and they was leaning against his breast, John was, and He was telling them things. And so Peter spoke up and said what about this man. And He said, `what if I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to you.’ He just bowed his head. They want to know what about, what about John. What about that one? Well now look folks, now you can ___ as long as John lived the devil couldn’t be up, he could not ___ ___ ___. John over there ___ cause he had to go to the end of it and he had to be out there on the Isle of Patmos surrounded by water, just as the earth was surrounded by water here in the vision, the earth is surrounded. See how it’s surrounded by water, he’s on an island. And here he is here, John is looking back and he’s got to be in the end surrounded by water to confirm what Moses saw in his vision. So he had to live, outlive all of ’em. Now look, look at what the devil does. Now I have a Bible and you go and get those books and look and see if I ain’t telling you right that they killed the first pope. He wasn’t no pope. What did Peter say he was?
AUDIENCE: Son of Elohim DR. KINLEY: And who was the 2nd pope? AUDIENCE: Linus DR. KINLEY: Linus. Who was the third? AUDIENCE: Anacletus DR. KINLEY: Anacletus. Who was the 4th? AUDIENCE: Clement.
DR. KINLEY: All back there in the first century. Look, Mickey, are you listening? Now John outlived Peter, who was supposed to be the first pope. And when Yahshua was here walking around in the flesh, Peter and John were paired off together and the others were paired off too. Peter and John. They went about preaching that the kingdom of heaven was shall be ___ ___. Now when Peter passes on and John (they say 67) and he’s out there on the Isle of Patmos. Pay attention now. Now then they say that those, John overlived Peter. Peter couldn’t be the 2nd Pope, I mean John couldn’t be the 2nd pope. That’s what the Roman Catholics say: that John could not be the 2nd pope. Now this is why they said that he couldn’t, and look in your list of popes and see that, see if John is the 2nd pope. Linus is. That’s what they say. Now you know who Linus was? Linus was a companion of the apostle Paul. You know who Anacletus was? He was a companion of the apostle Paul, not a pope. You know who Clement was? He was a companion of the apostle Paul, not a pope. And they got lined up there in the list of popes. Just a lie. We, we can find all of them right there in that Book, right in the Bible. And now they said that Peter, John couldn’t be the second pope, after Peter passed on. Now here’s why they said that he couldn’t be: they said his bishopric was only local because he was out there on the Isle of Patmos and he wrote his epistle and he was instructed to send it to the 7 churches which are in Asia (Philadelphia, Sardis, Pergamos, Smyrna and so forth and so on: the 7 churches; therefore he was just bishop over that, but Peter was to go unto all the world. Now you know as well as I do that all them apostles there when Yahshua was, just before He ascended He told them to go unto all the world, all 11 of ’em (isn’t that right?) Judas was dead. Is that right?
AUDIENCE: Right
DR. KINLEY: Do you see that? And then ___ ___ ___ ___ Peter can’t be a pope, I mean John can’t be a pope. Then they take Linus who wasn’t no witness.
AUDIENCE: No, no
DR. KINLEY: These, these 12 men, including Judas followed Him around over the Judean, they witnessed everything He done, that’s what it took, that’s what an apostle meant, is an eye witness. You see, you understand? Now read just a little further there. Now I have to hurry up cause there’s some things I want to bring out.
READER: And then shall that wicked be revealed DR. KINLEY: Now repeat what you just read before. READER: 7th verse. For the mystery of iniquity doth already work DR. KINLEY: Now the mystery of iniquity already is working READER: only he who now lets DR. KINLEY: only he who now lets READER: will let until he be taken out of the way DR. KINLEY: will let until he be taken out of the way READER: And then shall that wicked
DR. KINLEY: Now wait a minute. Then comes up the Roman Catholic Church ___ ___ ___ ___, that’s the last of the decease of the apostles, last one. Here he comes up, successor, he was the successor to Christ and the papacy, they are the successors of the apostles. Did you read there, over there in the 11th chapter of 2nd Corinthians that they called themselves apostles and they were not apostles. Did you read it? And Yahshua said out there on the Isle of Patmos to John that he knew that he said they were apostles and they found them to be liars. Now the point folks that I’m trying to get over to you is this: I’m trying to show you how and why all of this arose out of the different churches has come to pass is because there’s nothing there ___. They don’t preach to you the real truth, the right thing is not in you and you can’t do right, but I want you to go on and read a little further down because there’s something down here and there’s something down here for all …, everybody
READER: and then shall that wicked be revealed DR. KINLEY: and then shall that wicked be revealed. (TAPE 2 SIDE 1)
Now look folks, that’s my job, I have to tell you about this. I don’t have no way out of it, ain’t no need you cussing me out about it and complaining about it. Yahshua the Messiah ain’t gonna be revealed from heaven till I get you told. That’s what it says. We got to find out where the devil is. He’s cast out and he’s cast down to earth. We got to find him. And this, them demoniac spirits incarnated in them popes and cardinals and priests, rabbis and reverends and all that kinda junk and stuff, deceiving the people. Read on Mickey.
READER: Then shall that wicked be revealed DR. KINLEY: Then shall that wicked be revealed READER: whom Yahweh shall consume with the spirit of his mouth. DR. KINLEY: Listen, Yahweh will consume and all of the wickedness READER: with the spirit of his mouth DR. KINLEY: with the spirit of his mouth READER: and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming.
DR. KINLEY: Folks, listen, I don’t think some of you understand what we’re reading. Now Yahweh is in me or the Holy Spirit is in me and as I brighten the thing up and get closer and closer to you, reveal more knowledge and more understanding, gets brighter and brighter, and it becomes more clear to you – that’s the brightness of his coming and that wicked is revealed whom Yahweh will consume with what?
AUDIENCE: The spirit of his mouth. DR. KINLEY: The spirit of his mouth, I’ll drive him out of you (you talk about exorcism), AUDIENCE: Alright.
DR. KINLEY: Just drive him out of you, put him in his place that you might be saved at, at all costs suffer for it. Read on Mickey.
READER: And shall destroy
DR. KINLEY: And Yahweh will destroy with the brightness of His coming, He came to destroy every bit of that out of you, get you straightened up, get you in the right place, it ain’t the fella down on the corner. Nothing like that at all. Oh I tell you brethren. It’s something else. Read on Mickey.
READER: Even him DR. KINLEY: even him READER: whose coming is after the working of Satan DR. KINLEY: Now, you see that – His coming is after the working of Satan READER: with all power DR. KINLEY: Now with all power READER: and signs DR. KINLEY: and signs READER: and lying wonders
DR. KINLEY: and he’s a wonderful liar. I’m gonna tell you one of the wonderful lies he told. Matthew 26:26. Now, hurry up now. He’s a wonderful liar. Now hurry up now.
READER: And as they were eating DR. KINLEY: and as they were eating READER: Yahshua took bread DR. KINLEY: Yahshua took bread READER: and blessed it DR. KINLEY: and blessed it READER: and broke it DR. KINLEY: and broke it READER: and gave it to his disciples DR. KINLEY: Oh, and gave it to his disciples READER: and said DR. KINLEY: and said READER: take, eat DR. KINLEY: take, eat READER: this is my body DR. KINLEY: this is my body READER: and he took the cup DR. KINLEY: and he took the cup READER: and he gave thanks and gave it to them DR. KINLEY: and he took the cup and gave thanks and gave it to them READER: saying drink ye all of it DR. KINLEY: and said drink ye all of it READER: for this is my blood of the new covenant, DR. KINLEY: this is my blood of the New Covenant or New Testament READER: which is shed for many for the remission DR. KINLEY: which is shed for many for the remission of sins. Is that right? Now look up there above in the caption AUDIENCE: the Lord’s Supper instituted DR. KINLEY: huh? AUDIENCE: the Lord’s Supper instituted. DR. KINLEY: Now you see that? Now that’s a lie. Now this is a lie too. They say that Jesus said, repeat the verse. Read. READER: and he gave the cup and gave thanks and and gave to his… DR. KINLEY: Go back up to the 1st READER: As they were eating
DR. KINLEY: As they, now look, they don’t even say what they were eating folks cause they don’t know and the reason why they don’t know is that they don’t have sense enough to go back to the 12th chapter of Exodus and find out they was eating lamb and then Jesus took bread and broke it. They don’t know what’s on the menu. And they were eating lamb. He took the bread and He broke it. And He also took the cup. Now if you go back there in the 12th chapter of Exodus you’d find out what they was eating, you’d know what was on the menu, he said as they were eating. Is that right? Now here’s what I want to show you: here’s a lie. They say that Jesus said for us, as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup, this is one of the ordinances – this is the holy eucharist that Jesus instituted. No such of a lie. It was, here’s where he instituted it back, back here in Egypt on earth. You say, `yeah, he instituted that’ in the purpose of Yahweh ___ ___ ___. And what He’s doing, He’s fulfilling that which was back here. He wasn’t instituting nothing. Look folks He couldn’t institute nothing, all that He did was come to fulfill, he couldn’t institute a thing because it had already instituted and that’s what He come for was to fulfill, that’s what He said He was doing. And now here they got you saying that Jesus told us. And look here, there’s another bad thing about it. That’s over in another world or in another age, not in this present age. It’s over there. And look there wasn’t nobody… Go back there and read that Dr. Gross. I want where He put it to his disciples.
READER: You want me. DR. KINLEY: Yes READER: And as they were eating, Yahshua took bread DR. KINLEY: They who? That’s what I’m trying to find out. I’m trying to find out who ___ ___ ___ ___ ___. READER: The first day of the feast of unleavened bread the disciples came
DR. KINLEY: Now, that’s what.., they were his disciples. Say buster, they were Jews, every last one of ’em, wasn’t no gentiles there. He ain’t said nothing like that to no gentiles and He wasn’t instituting nothing, He’s fulfilling that Passover down there in Egypt. Ain’t said a thing. Now that ought to hit it. And we intend to beat every bit of that foolishness out of you. You can’t read nothing like that in no Bible. He ain’t said nothing like that to you. That was not in this age, that was in another world. Ain’t said a thing to you. That was over there, that was under the law. Now listen, now somebody say, `well, that was in the New Testament.’ I’m reading out of the New Testament myself: 9th chapter of Hebrews and I think the 10th verse.
READER: Hebrews 9:10. which stood only in meats and drinks DR. KINLEY: Just a minute. Oh I tell you, (BELL RINGS) that that, the first tabernacle stood only in meats and drinks. READER: and diverse washings DR. KINLEY: That’s right. READER: and carnal ordinances DR. KINLEY: That’s right READER: imposed on them
DR. KINLEY: Now wait folks, the Jews, the hebrews. It was imposed on the Jews. It didn’t have nothing to say about no gentiles at no time, just not in the Bible. ___ ___ ___ ___ just carnal ordinances, those physical things, those natural things that, that the Catholics and the Protestants and the Jews are telling you to eat. Yahshua the Messiah died to move ’em out of the way so that you might receive the Holy Spirit to which them things pointed to. Do you understand? And they’re out there lying to you and telling you that Jesus said and reading it out of what they call the New Testament. He said the First Covenant stood only in meats and drinks and diverse washings and carnal ordinances imposed on the Jew until the time of reformation. Is that right? And now here’s what I’m supposed to be doing. Is that right David?
DR. DAVID ROSEN: Right.
DR. KINLEY: That’s right. That’s a Jew too, full blooded. I, I, I guess I’ve got time to tell you this. There is something down there I would get ___ ___. Go ahead and read.
READER: even him whose coming is after the working of Satan with all powers and signs and lying wonders and with all deceivableness and unrighteousness in them that perish because they receive not the love of the truth that they might be saved and for this cause
DR. KINLEY: Now listen and for this reason, now you can believe it or not, but for this reason, cause you won’t receive the love of the truth, you won’t receive that there wasn’t nobody but the Jews and it was under the dispensation of the law and it stood only in meats and drinks and diverse washings and carnal ordinances until the time of ref…, you won’t believe that. And you got yourself out there, telling that Jesus said or Christ said for us to eat of this. That’s a lie. It’s not so, it wasn’t in this world or age before and because it is telling you the truth, you won’t receive the truth and for this cause, then what.
READER: Yahweh shall send them DR. KINLEY: Didn’t say the devil? READER: No, Yahweh. DR. KINLEY: Yahweh READER: shall send them strong delusion DR. KINLEY: send you a strong delusion READER: that they should believe a lie DR. KINLEY: Now you won’t believe in that line, you can go straight to hell or the lake as fast as you can go. READER: that they all might be damned. DR. KINLEY: that they all might be damned READER: who believe not the truth but have pleasure in unrighteousness
DR. KINLEY: Now you see that? You have to come up from there. Somebody say, `well, no, no, no, no I’m not coming up where you going.’ You’ll go straight to the lake as you can go. That’s what the Book said. Now the supper is this: you’re a partaker of His spirit, that’s what the natural bread pointed to. And it was eaten in their home, within their houses, never was in the history of the world done up in the congregation of the assembly. What I wanted to say folks, that I didn’t say: it didn’t take all of the spirit to make up this little, one little body and I say that Yahweh is incarnate in me and if it comes to me that some don’t believe, and the Book says within whom we live and move and have our being. Now look, I only went so far as to tell you this (I didn’t tell you tonight): there isn’t anything at all, (that’s the reason why reincarnation don’t work,) there isn’t anything that didn’t come from Him. And in Him we all live, we all move, in other words the universe in its totality has its source and derivative from Yahweh or from spirit. Matter which is your physical body and every other thing come from spirit and it goes back to which it came; therefore I say it does not take all of Yahweh and all of Yahweh is not in Him. I’m trying to correct that error that somebody has mentioned and thinking I mean this. That’s not so. It takes all to make up the body of Yahshua (2ND BELL RINGS) the Messiah. It takes all to do that, not just me by myself, but it is the true spirit and there isn’t (I heard the bell). Now there’s nothing in this here, this spirit back here, that isn’t in this. Just like you take a cup and dip it in the ocean and then it’s the water that’s in the cup. It’s just like that, it’s the same thing, but you can’t get the whole ocean in the cup. Now you see what I’m talking about?
AUDIENCE: Yes
DR. KINLEY: So then that’s the way it is with all, and this all belongs to Yahshua, and He was incarnated in the whole entire thing, the sum total of everything that is in existence, in other words, nothing exists but Him. Now how about that?
AUDIENCE: Alright DR. KINLEY: Thank you.
AUDIENCE: (APPLAUDS)
